performanace of Ele shaman in 4.2?

[death]

still, im sticking with the class, as i enjoy it, and ill continue to work at it......that is unless my boomkins will be even more fun :P

[Nikita]

Wish we still were in s8 with wrathfull gear :/ <3

[Meshuggenah]

In pve ele shaman was at the bottom of all dps specs in current raid tier

That's a misleading quote. Elemental Shaman DPS is very competetive, it's only bottom currently because the majority of fights this tier involve some kind of cleave (either 2 bosses or lots of adds). It's the mechanics of this tiers encounters that are the problem, not their damage. Which is probably why Blizzard is giving them a spammable elemental.

[Nikita]

That's a misleading quote. Elemental Shaman DPS is very competetive, it's only bottom currently because the majority of fights this tier involve some kind of cleave (either 2 bosses or lots of adds). It's the mechanics of this tiers encounters that are the problem, not their damage. Which is probably why Blizzard is giving them a spammable elemental.

Atm with full bloodthirsty gear and vicious weps my lightning bolts are hitting for 8 k on lvl 85 dummies, while my equal geared hunter with spammable arcane shots hit for 10-12 k. So dmg is fairly low from a PvP point of view

[zenga]

That's a misleading quote. Elemental Shaman DPS is very competetive, it's only bottom currently because the majority of fights this tier involve some kind of cleave (either 2 bosses or lots of adds). It's the mechanics of this tiers encounters that are the problem, not their damage. Which is probably why Blizzard is giving them a spammable elemental.

No my quote was spot on. Over all raid content ele shaman is at the very bottom of the dps specs. There is simply no way to deny that, as all numbers will prove you wrong; A good elemental is just competitive when there are multiple bosses active, for the simple fact he can dot up flame shocks and get thus more lava surge procs. But lets see:

Magmaw HC: 2 adds, not really 'cleave', rest of fight requires hardly movement
Maloriak HC: black adds are awesome for our new aoe rotation, other adds don't have enough health, hardly movement
Chimaron HC: hardly any movement involved
Atramedes HC: basic movement, but we always have something to cast
Defense system HC: single target fight, quite some movement
Nef HC: no multiple adds, hardly any movement involved, gimmic fight due to buff, pure rng if u get it or not

Conclave HC: depending on your role and tactic moving intensive or not, not multiple adds
Alakir HC: adds, but you can't cleave them, moving intensive

Halfus HC: adds that allow us to do better to cleave & multi dot - gimmick fight
V&T HC: no adds, 2 bosses, quite some movement
Council HC: way too much movement and prolly worst fight for ele
Cho'gall HC: adds, but rest of fight is pretty static
Sinestra: not really a cleave fight, again haste modifier

Bar council hard, we always have spells enough to cast while moving. There are not more cleave fights than stand alone fights. And moving will always be a part of encounter design.

Go to this site, and check the dps ranking from all logs available, and check on a boss per boss level, and you'll see that every time ele is near or at the bottom of dps specs.

On 8 heroic fights (25) I've scored a top 200 rank in world of logs as ele shaman in 4.1. And on none of them I was the top dps in my raid, often facing a large gap with others, who were at only 80% of scoring a ranked kill for their spec.

[zenga]

Atm with full bloodthirsty gear and vicious weps my lightning bolts are hitting for 8 k on lvl 85 dummies, while my equal geared hunter with spammable arcane shots hit for 10-12 k. So dmg is fairly low from a PvP point of view

Yeah our lava burst hits for pathetic damage compared to other specs.

[Toned]

Ele works in 3s single from what I was doing on PTR, but I'm still skeptical of 4 sham 5s. The burst just isn't what it used to be, and we're still crippled by stuns and interrupts.

[Shodokan]

Ele works in 3s single from what I was doing on PTR, but I'm still skeptical of 4 sham 5s. The burst just isn't what it used to be, and we're still crippled by stuns and interrupts.

There are far far too many interrupts in the game compared to when we were in our prime... but there are also very few prot warriors and such running around stunning things.

[remanz]

I haven't been in the shaman scene since cata. and can't check talent trees at work. What did they give elementals for survival when they removed Astral shift. nothing? Shaman can take some beatings back then. Now I'd imagined you have to run sideways while casting LB. When they got near, earthbind, then run again. and finally TS, and run again. All the running, you chip in Lava burst whenever it is up. Otherwise, just keep running LB all day. and this obviously won't be too easy to do with boxing.

[Lyonheart]

I haven't been in the shaman scene since cata. and can't check talent trees at work. What did they give elementals for survival when they removed Astral shift. nothing? Shaman can take some beatings back then. Now I'd imagined you have to run sideways while casting LB. When they got near, earthbind, then run again. and finally TS, and run again. All the running, you chip in Lava burst whenever it is up. Otherwise, just keep running LB all day. and this obviously won't be too easy to do with boxing.

TS has a snare now as well