performanace of Ele shaman in 4.2?

[remanz]

Right. I got that from the patch notes. The snare is definitely welcome.

But no compensation for Astral Shift removal when cata launched, so we just lost 30% damage reduction flat ? That seems pretty harsh to me.

Astral Shift was not OP like divine sacrifice for paladins.

[luxlunae]

No my quote was spot on. Over all raid content ele shaman is at the very bottom of the dps specs. There is simply no way to deny that, as all numbers will prove you wrong;

On 8 heroic fights (25) I've scored a top 200 rank in world of logs as ele shaman in 4.1. And on none of them I was the top dps in my raid, often facing a large gap with others, who were at only 80% of scoring a ranked kill for their spec.

Back in Wrath I once had a very frustrated conversation about my ele.

"Me: At this point I just try to out dps anyone that's stupid enough to die and any shadow priests"
"Reply: Really? They are buffing shadow priests next patch"
*SHAMAN RETIRED*

[zenga]

After playing the entire noon since patch is up on my main ele in BG's ... all I can say is WoW. It's fcking awesome with all the changes. Can't wait for AV this weekend and run around with multiple ele's.

Melee ... for the first time in 7 months they actually ran away from me. Self heals that crit for 50k (ghw)
The crit boost to healing spells is actually a serious boost for ele.

Being locked out of your nature school is still painful, but man I'm having a blast.

[Ashley]

The crit to healing spells is for every healing ability in the game that can already crit.

[zenga]

Obviously, but it's very welcome for ele shamans, something I never really realized when thinking about the 4.2 pvp buffs.

[Multibocks]

how are you taking advantage of running while casting LBs? You just not bother? Seems too difficult to be advantageous.

[zenga]

how are you taking advantage of running while casting LBs? You just not bother? Seems too difficult to be advantageous.

huh? if you move after rooting someone you can cast lb's and build up a stack of fulmination ,.... i don't really see whats hard with casting while for instance circle strafing ... of course you should bother

[Multibocks]

You can circle strafe on all 5?

[EaTCarbS]

You can circle strafe on all 5?

with the right keybinds, yes.

[Meshuggenah]

Atm with full bloodthirsty gear and vicious weps my lightning bolts are hitting for 8 k on lvl 85 dummies, while my equal geared hunter with spammable arcane shots hit for 10-12 k. So dmg is fairly low from a PvP point of view

Probably, I don't really PvP in WoW.

No my quote was spot on. Over all raid content ele shaman is at the very bottom of the dps specs. There is simply no way to deny that, as all numbers will prove you wrong; A good elemental is just competitive when there are multiple bosses active, for the simple fact he can dot up flame shocks and get thus more lava surge procs.

There are several Elemental Shamans in the top 200 damage done on 25H Chim (the only single target encounter in the entire tier that I can think of?). So, I'd say there is plenty of evidence that Elemental damage on single targets is competetive with other classes/specs. Flame shock on a couple of targets is not even in the same ballpark as double dotting Moonkins, Spriests, impact, DK cleave, Rogue cleave, Warrior cleave, hunter cleave . . . probably could have saved time and just said any other class in the game.

If you actually go through world of logs and look at the the damage split between targets on each fight, the single target damage done to focus targets (the boss) is competetive. The inflated numbers other classes get are, in most cases, caused by cleave. There's no way a Shaman of any spec can keep up with Rogue cleave on Heroic Magmaw, Warlocks on Maloriak, Mages on Halfus. It's just the way classes interact with cleave.