Anyone find a good grind spot for cloth and motes.. as well as a leather spot? the darn motes are too rare.. i have 8 so far from a day of questing.
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Anyone find a good grind spot for cloth and motes.. as well as a leather spot? the darn motes are too rare.. i have 8 so far from a day of questing.
I dinged my mages to 86 and then went to Krasarang Wilds. Grinded Weeping Horrors ( http://www.wowhead.com/npc=57649 ) for 3 hours and dinged to 87 because the mobs spawn instantly. I looted 210 motes in that time with some afking once in a while ;)
Looting is very fast when you have "Pass loot: Yes" on your slaves, so your main loots everything.
I think they nerfed this already, i was there for an hour and got 4 motes a few greens and less than a bub exp.. killing things non stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by runtu
I assume you were there with mulltiple toons? I did pulls with 50+ mobs "at once" (was running back and forth, spamming 5x Nether Tempest on everything)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyonheart
When any of the mobs die, they respawned, and I pulled them back to the pile with more Nether Tempests.
Mobs gave around 3600 exp each non-rested while group bonus was around 900exp per mob.
hmm.. how you get 50 mobs?.. there must be a better spot.. there were a few "pit" type areas where they were spawning non stop. but like 4-7 in each small area.Quote:
Originally Posted by runtu
I pulled the 4 to 7 mobs and when one of them died I chain pulled the respawning one so I was in the combat for a long time. Only stopped when one of the toon was on low health, ran away from the pit to food, then looted the 50+, rinse repeat ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyonheart
ahh ok.. i was doing that too.. just did not see my exp bar move and only got a few motes 8(Quote:
Originally Posted by runtu
in valley of the four winds "stoneplow fields" killing Ik'thik Swiftclaws got several motes, and a ton of cloth, and that was jst while doing the quest, i spent about an hour and got 12 spirits of harmony, 15 or so stacks of cloth, around a dozen greens and one blue
The turtles at Pools of Purity in Valley of the Four Winds. Insta respawn and the mobs are close to each other. I run 10 toons and just positioned each of them so someone else was covering his back and made a special button in ISBoxer to target the turtles instead of assisting the lead.
Across 10 toons I made oh, about 300 motes in an hour.
The little ones? with like no hp?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
Well I must have shit luck...every time someone posts a good spot and says they got "X-hundred motes" i think.. " well if i get half that many, Ill be happy" Then i go and spend an hour and get next to nothing. I got ZERO motes at the turtles in an hour. And a handful at the stoneplow fields. I got some greens, cloth..but i could care less about those.. i want the motes lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
Well, there *is* a difference between running 5 and running 10. Plus, my guys are all melee so they kill stupidly fast with no downtime.
Edit: I may make a video and post it. No promises--I leave for vacation tomorrow and I'll be gone a week.
I dont think its possible to kill any faster than i was killing them.. I had my guys spread out and i killed them so fast there were moments of no turtles to hit. You are talking about the little turtles up top right? And i mean.. zero motes in an hour compared to your 300? no way! Even if i were killing them some what slower than you ( i doubt it ) I should have gotten something close to that.. not "zero"! So I must be in the wrong spot, or it got hotfixed this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
No, they're down to the east a bit. There's a quest to gather like 30 strips of turtle meat for the area.
I thought of that.. but had to go back to work ( was on lunch break ) Ill give that a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
That's them.
Windwool Cloth is like 50s each on my server, and there's like 6k auctions of it. We got lots of farmers around, or did Blizz f*** up the droprate? ;)
Btw, have you noticed that if you're on a quest and kill quest mobs, they spawn much faster than without the quest? Or if there are people around with the quest and the mobs are under heavy farming, so they have to spawn instantly to make questers happy? Later if you are there alone without the quest, the mobs won't spawn instantly because "they don't have to"
If ANYONE is on the quest in the area they respawn faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by runtu
Also @ mosg's spot. 40 motes in 20 mins (small sample size) and got me my 8% rested exp from the exp.
I was just there for an hour, solo on my dk, probably killed a few hundred turtles, and got 5 motes. was plenty of turtles due to questers, was no downtime and I typically was pulling 5-6 at a time.
get the quest, and don't turn it in and farm with a team and its probably alot more turtles.
I was farming the turtles for 3 hours last night. ALL my accounts with the DKs on them (Farming with Paladin and 4 DKs) just now got banned. TOTAL BULLSHIT. I just got 4 password resets then 5 minutes later.. banned. My Paladin account didn't get banned. He was just healing and not doing any of the kills.
I have no such hack programs installed. Just ISBoxer. I did nothing wrong. I'm currently on hold with them, but I have no idea how to appeal or get this reversed. I want it revered tonight since I came home so I can level up my team.
Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Unauthorized Cheat Programs ("Hacks")
Either they believe killing the spawns over and over is considered an exploit or someone reported me and they didn't research it properly.
Thats BS bro. so sorry to hear that. I mean they made these mote so rare, and you need them for a lot of stuff! They don't expect us to farm like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheShox
Update to my above post. Spoke to account support who is escalating to the GMs. They said that there is some checks behind the scenes for activity that resembles powerleveling services. Because of the quickness of the kills for a long period of time, it resembled a bot. The guy I spoke to actually had multiboxed before with 5 accounts with ISBoxer. He understood the reason for farming kills versus collection quests. He looked at the logs and confirmed that all 5 accounts were logged in at the same time and I even gave him my current IP and he said it matched what was in the logs and it is from comcast. So I said that proves it wasn't some chinese farmer. He said he will get more info about the speed kills to see if we should back off on it due to these backened checks. In the meantime, he said he will send my account with not on it up the chain and also asked me to submit an appeal through the web ticket system. I better get these unbanned because I didn't do anything wrong.
And I just realized why this may have occurred. Even the account rep called this a new check. Fs and Athene world firsts. I bet they thought my Paladin was tagging outside of the group, which it was not. Everyone was in the same group getting the same XP and they should have reviewed the logs to see that.
Well I was doing it for leveling purposes. The motes were nice, but wanted to get to 88 to bypass the worst collection zones. And also to possibly do the Prince rep farming that was mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyonheart
I got bored with questing and went back to Weeping Horrors. Ran around the pit with stopwatch, kept spamming 5x Nether Tempest with everything and then stopped after 4 minutes. Looted the pile and got 60 grey items (amount of mobs died, each drop one) and five motes, which seems to be a good average on droprate.Quote:
Originally Posted by runtu
That's around 82500 exp for each toon (while they are rested) every minute, sums up to 75 motes and 5 million rested exp per hour (+food breaks). I finished with 100 motes (grinded less than 90 minutes) and bought 30x Golden Lotus from the vendor for 10 Spirits of Harmony. Sold the flowers for 10k gold on AH (~300g+ each)
It's a massacre though. Every mob lives only 4 seconds after tagging, while each of them stands with 184k hp.
Where is the vendor that you trade the motes for Lotus?Quote:
Originally Posted by runtu
You can find both Krystel and Danky standing at Shrines in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by crowdx
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=66685
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=66678
@Theshox:
All 10 of mine just got banned too for the same thing. Gonna call Blizz here when they open up and raise hell.
Hopefully i didn't get the ban hammer... then again i was only there for about 10% exp and around an hour total.
edit: no e-mails and accounts still say active on account status.
Well, maybe this hints that they're finally going to get around to a massive banwave on all those bots out there. I swear there's twice as many bots on my server as there are horde. But I suppose that's not saying much, lol.
The HB bots are hard to detect since they are just gathering or using quest profiles. What were were doing was killing mobs almost every second for a long period of time. I was able to get my account bans overturned. Mosg2, I think everything will be fine as well, it just sucks having it happen and to wait. I know this is sort of hijacking the thread, but this happened because we were attempting stuff mentioned in this thread. Here is my communication with Blizzard. Seems they are using some type of automatic ban if the system detects suspicious activity. They recommended not doing what I was doing before or I'll have to go through the same process of review again. What irks me is, this isn't suspicious activity at all. Because we box, we can drop things so fast, so it appears like a damage hack. They are the one spawning the mobs, not some hack tool on our end.
Hello xxxxx,
My name is xxxxx and I’ll be assisting you with your game accounts.
We had escalated this up further for you and were able to get the account actions overturned for you.
I would be happy to help you out further if you have any further issues with this about this or any other issue, simply reply to this ticket. Or, if you prefer, you can give us a call at any of the following numbers:
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/contact
Sincerely,
xxxxx
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Thank you so much xxxx!! That was quick and I appreciate the help. I do have one question and that is, can I continue doing what I was doing? Just killing the mobs over and over in the MoP areas? If so, will the system know not to flag me or will future GMs know not to place a ban on the accounts again?
Thanks,
xxxx
GM Below:
Greetings,
I received your followup ticket and hope you're having a nice day today.
I'm glad the previous rep was able to assist with the account actions you reported. =) As for going forward, I'd recommend trying something different since our systems could end up doing the same thing if they detect the same activity, as this would need to be thoroughly investigated by another department before any changes could be made, if any. So please be very care about doing anything that might be considered suspicious in the future.
If you have any other questions or issues feel free to contact us again and we'll get in touch with you as soon as possible.
Best wishes,
xxxxx
So a group going anywhere, to kill mobs in mass for the sole purpose of farming these damn motes, that we need, will get us banned. ( even if it gets overturned, we pay too much for that kind of hassle ) BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a BS answer! So basically if you kill x amount of mobs in x amount of time, you get autobanned.... wow.
Seems like a reasonable solution to their problem, it would only effect a small number of legitimate users such as us, but effect a very large number of farming/leveling bots.
Well that is concerning. I have been leveling a team of 4 the past half week or so. I farmed the Wildhammer Dwarfs in The Hinterlands two nights ago for about 90 min to get the distress beacon for the mechanical chicken quests, but nothing happened afaik. I didn't get MoP yet for those accounts as I wanted to get several groups to 80 first and figured by the time I was ready to go further there would be a holiday sale on Cata/MoP. I'll keep an eye out how this goes in the long term, as lots of collection quests are not something I'm looking forward to in the future. My plan was to grind most of the way from 85+. Especially when you can buy decent gear for gold to get you going instead of having to quest for it.
Flux1, There isn't an issue with farming. It has to do with the way some MoP areas have infinite respawns of mobs. After all or most are dead, the system immediately spawns more. With so many kills over a short time, it is tripping something in blizzard's poorly implemented autoban system. If it would just check to see if all toons are in the same group with the same IP getting the same XP, then it shouldn't flag the accounts. The rep on the phone did say that changes would be required to compensate for what boxers are doing with these spawns, but never said that it would actually occur.
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Originally Posted by JohnGabriel
i appreciate what they are doing, but you would think there would be a system in place thats a tad smarter,TheShox said, check your IP etc.. so they don't inconvenience someone by auto-banning them in a case like above.
BUt Back OT.. Im sure some of you knew that when you get revierde you can get http://www.wowhead.com/item=89233.. they give you one mote.. so at exalted you can get 16 per day. per toon.. combine that with killing mobs for them,, and thats a good start. i mean 16 guaranteed motes a day, or 2 spirits every two days, not bad!
The Dwarfs I was farming seemed to be on a similar timer as by the time the last one was dead a few more had respawned. I've read on other forums that lots of packs of mobs have been set to have the instant respawns in old world content like in pandaria. I'd hope they see false positives are impacting legit customers and put in a fix for it like you mentioned. However since this apparently something new people don't know much about, it does concern me knowing there is an invisible limit that can trigger on you.
Well, it took three phone calls and a bunch of back and forth but they overturned the bans on my accounts. I'm still not sure what to do going into the future--My guess is to wait until I hit 90 and am not getting experience from these mobs before going back and/or finding another spot.
Maybe a post on the main forums is in order to get a definitive answer on this topic?
I found an ok spot. in dread wastes..south island called Zan'vess. You get a buff from one of the bug NPCs " Kil'Ruk The Wind-Reaver". Every 60 seconds, when you have at least two mobs on you.. Angels of Death will fly down and do some mad dps to whatever your fighting. If all your guys have this.. its nutz. BTW you can have one enhancement and one augment from these NPCs.. 8)
Anyway, i was questing on the island and was pulling a ton of mobs..i don't think i was getting the "hundreds" of motes some of you were, but it was good steady coin, cloth, motes, greens and these quest shards you can turn in for rep with the bugs. ( When a quest shard drops.. its drops for all in group 8)
The buffs last as long as you are in the zone. There might be a better spot than where I was at, you can do this anywhere in the zone. ( the buffs called Angel of Death btw )