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    Default Boxing melee

    As seen here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnxfNibACaw

    He's controlling the paladin and his 4 enhance shamans act more like pets - sending them off indepedently to attack a target.

    How is this done? Is this some varation of interact with target?

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    Essentially yes.
    Here's a link to the complete setup for my 1x Paladin (who I drive with 95% of the time) and 4x Death Knight team
    http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/3...n-DK-Manifesto

    If click to move is enabled.
    And you push the IWT keybind.
    Toons will move to their target.

    With IS Boxer, you can use a predefined group as the target.
    You could accomplish the same, by giving melee say "x" as their IWT keybind.
    And giving all toons, including melee, the IWT keybind of "y".

    You can "imbed" this into your DPS spam.
    So it sends the IWT keybind to your melee toons (only), as part of your DPS spam.

    Then you have keybinds or mouse areas you click (which broadcast to the targets of your choice) for specials.
    And you spam one key, for IWT and your DPS sequence whatever that is...
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    Glad you liked my video. It is all Interact with Target and click to move. Awesome stuff.
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    I'm using your video as a guide line. I hit 85 on the shamans today and since I was already honor capped and had 170 honor tokens I started off with 4 peices of Enhance gear and 4 peices of holy gear for the Paladin.

    I've been setting it up all evening.

    One that that just occured to me. How are you healing exactly? I have a 20 key x-key, keyboard and 5 button mouse.

    Using IS boxer, if I drive with the paladin the shamans will assist him for everything. That's fine for when I'm telling them to initially attack a target but when I change targets to heal, they'll also change targets to my friendly.

    Is there a way to keep them on the target so I can heal independently with the paladin?

    Also, do you have to spam the interact with target hotkey or am I missing something? If I don't spam it they start to run off.

    Would you mind posting a screen shot of your UI and if you're feeling especially helpful a list of what your UI mods are?
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    Using a repeater region, over a Grid/Vuhdo/Healbot frame.
    Vuhdo/Healbot are all-in-one solutions.

    Grid requires GridCustomLayouts and Clique to interpret the clicks.

    Of the three, most seem to choose Grid, but its an aesthetic choice; all three are equally functional.

    The important part is to have an identical sort.
    With Grid you can have your team alphabetically in the first column, and the raid/battleground alphabetically in the remaining columns.
    With Vuhdo/Healbot, it appears you need the whole raid alphabetically or to designate your team as "tanks" or extra units to track separately.

    With an identical sort and the frame in the same place...
    The repeater region sends the click from the current window, to only the healer's window.
    And the healer interprets the clicks as you have them set.



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    I've got grid and clique installed now and set up. Assuming I set up Grid correctly my shamans should always be in the same spot and I can heal them via mousing over the frame.

    I set my 3 mouse thumb buttons as big heal, instant heal, fast heal.

    That should work.

    I found one of Mosg2's tuturial videos.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd8lOQ5J0AY

    I'm watching it for the second time now since it's a little over my head but I really like the idea of having 1 button for spamming DPS. I loved the old /castrandom macro which was available when I originally leveled my shamans to 80. It made running instances a cinch.

    Do I have to spam the interact with target hotkey to keep the shamans from running off in different directions or is there a trick to this?

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    Using a repeater region, over a Grid/Vuhdo/Healbot frame.
    Vuhdo/Healbot are all-in-one solutions.

    Grid requires GridCustomLayouts and Clique to interpret the clicks.

    Of the three, most seem to choose Grid, but its an aesthetic choice; all three are equally functional.

    The important part is to have an identical sort.
    With Grid you can have your team alphabetically in the first column, and the raid/battleground alphabetically in the remaining columns.
    With Vuhdo/Healbot, it appears you need the whole raid alphabetically or to designate your team as "tanks" or extra units to track separately.

    With an identical sort and the frame in the same place...
    The repeater region sends the click from the current window, to only the healer's window.
    And the healer interprets the clicks as you have them set.



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    Quick update:

    I think I've figured it out. I had to watch Mosq's video a few times on this particular step but I set up one of my shamans and success.

    Basically, when I spam the space bar (it can be anykey, just whatever you want for your "DPS SPAM" key) it interacts with target and cycles randomly through my shaman abilities. Oh, hell yes!

    I'm debating if I should take chain lightning out of the rotation because being a random cast its not always going to cast when at full maelstrom weapon charges.
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    Every time you spam IWT, it sends a follow to the target.
    And if you're spamming, they'll overrun the target frequently.

    In PvP spamming will make them circle the target, which is a huge benefit.
    In PvE, press it once and wait for them to close to melee and then spam away (or not), and your toons won't run off.

    If you're using IS Boxer, you can imbed your IWT into your melee spam.
    So it is automatic sort of.
    You're still pushing the key.
    My set up has IWT imbedded, but with a toggle to disable it.
    http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/3...469#post312469

    I have the same kind of setup for Death Coil.
    Which is far less damage than Frost Strike, for the Runic Power dump.
    But is usable at range.
    You can toggle on/off any ability that you like using this same method.
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    I'm using IS Boxer. I have IWT imbedded into my spam key and it works except one problem that I'm trying to figure out.

    It sends the shamans after the wrong target. I'm driving with my paladin and I'll select say one target dummy and then spress my space bar (spam DPS / Interact W/ Target) and it immediately switches to the other training dummy. Same dummy every time. I'm not sure whats causing that.
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    You have roughly double your latency, before a slave toon knows what the master is targeting.
    That's a warcraft issue, and no boxing software will solve that.

    When you IWT spam, they over-run their targets a little.
    The fix is to IWT something closer to you, even a corpse for them to loot.
    You can use /Follow, when they start to run off.
    Or an independent slave movement key (I have the arrow keys (mimic the Other's Jump mapped key) for slave only movement).

    Your "wrong target dummy" could be pathing.
    Not sure on that.





    For the priority system...

    I'd take each of your spells and make them into mapped keys.
    So it might be...

    No Hotkey
    Keystroke Action > Sends Keybind to Warcraft > Target: Your Shaman ActionTargetGroup

    Do that for each of the spells you use.

    Then have your master spam key.

    Do mapped key > FTL Assist Me > Target: Current Window
    Do mapped key > General Keymap > Melee IWT > Target: Your Melee toons.
    Do Mapped Key > Each of your Spells...

    And then make a toggle for the Chain Lightning.
    With two steps, one is on and the other is off...
    Keymap action > Mapped Key State Action >

    That way, you can spam away... and have Chain Lightning when its good.
    And not have it, when its bad.
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