Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' (FTL) setup.

[alfa]

so 1 more thing to ask. I dunno if it is like that but i setup a spell ctrl+2, but i can cast it with alt+2 also. is that normal ?

[NevadaGuy]

Thx to the OPs for this thread.

I'm a bit challenged when it comes to all of this and have what I'm sure are some obvious to most questions but I'm struggling.

When you type in your post that we should set up this way:

2 --> LBAT
Ctrl-alt-] --> LBBT
Alt-Shift-] --> LBCT
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-] --> LBDT
Ctrl-] --> LBET

Does Keyclone know what LBAT stands for? Or do you have to type out a different command?

And a more basic question, am I correct in assuming that when you say ToonA, I should type in my toons name?

Sorry for being so thick.

[olipcs]

Does Keyclone know what LBAT stands for? Or do you have to type out a different command?

Keyclone doesn't "know" what it stands for, but it also doesn't need to. LBAT is only the name of the hotstring and can be theoretical a random phrase as long as you use the same phrase for the modifier-key-combinations in all your toons keymaps. LBAT was choosen here to give a hint at the semantic of the hotstring (LightningBolt on ToonAs Target), you could also use 'lightning.bolt.on.ToonA.target' or if you like confusion 'blablup'....

And a more basic question, am I correct in assuming that when you say ToonA, I should type in my toons name?

Yes, in the macros you have to replace ToonA,ToonB.... with the actuall names of your characters.

[Wide]

This is driving me insane, have been trying for a week to get this to work, but cant even get one single string to work.

I just tried using it on 2 chars, to locate my error, but that does not help.

ToonA:
2 = LB.ToonA
LCTRL+LALT+NUMPAD9 = LB.ToonB

ToonB:
LCTRL+PRIOR = LB.ToonA
2 = LB.ToonB

Ingame:
Bound to numpad #9:
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Cada
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Cbdb
/target [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl] Cdac
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift] Cdbd
/target [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Cbde
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt

Notes:
- Keyclone convert "Numpad #9" to "PRIOR" when SHIFT is pressed down, this happens to all keys that isnt standard letters/numbers.
- The #2 key is not transmitted between my wow windows anymore, all the keys im not using in this leaderless setup is transmitting just fine. Meaning, when i press #2 the #2 key is not highlighted like fx. the #1 key is.


UPDATE:
Got the /target macro to work (was an error in it). It now work when i have ToonB (Cbdb) as main, then ToonA (Cada) shoot at the right target.
Still not work when i have ToonA (Cada) as target, must be because Keyclone change Numpad9 to "Prior" when shift is pressed down - anyway to prevent that?

[Pocalypse]

Don't use the numpad #s if you need to use shift. As you saw in keyclone, Shift + Numpad3 is a completely different key. WoW sees it as such and doesn't do the numpad3 + shift modifier, but something completely different that you don't have bound anywhere.

[NevadaGuy]

Well, I succeeded in getting my follow and lightning bolt setups to work! Took a while at the computer, but once i started writing them the process became more clear.

On to the next challenge.

I have 3 shammies. I want all of them to dps in the normal ftl fashion but I want 1, ToonC, to be available for healing.

I'd like to be able to mouseover my healing target and set that focus for ToonC to heal. I'd like to use the middle mouse button. Is there a way to pass focus among Toons? Here is my poor attempt, any suggestions?

mmb is middle mouse button.

ToonA:
mmb--->HFC

ToonB:

mmb---> HFC

ToonC:

mmb--->HFC

****************************
Bind mmb to "\" on ToonC

Attach following macro to "\" on ToonC:

/stopcasting
/focus [target=mouseover]
/cast [target=focus] healing wave
***************************

Can't be this easy can it??

[Poetry]

I've been trying to get the /click to work with the assist macro but no luck. I've tested by just having it click a button that has a simple macro like "/s this is a test" and the click goes through. However, in trying to /click the /assist macro , it would appear that no modifiers ever get passed to it so it becomes non-functional. Pressing the keybind for the assist macro directly works perfectly. The keymaps I'm using in keyclone are similar to the setup explained by OLIPCS. Do I need to change my keymaps to the variation where different master and slave keys are used (as seen in the original post in this thread) in order to use /click? Any help appreciated!


EDIT: I did finally get this to work...turned out to be simple UBF. I was binding the wrong key...made the key map for one thing and put my macro on another...doh! So I'm happy to report that /click does work with the OLIPCS method...as long as you actually bind to the right key!

[atgben]

omg... i just found out what's been fucking me up ALL the way..

My wows wont save the macros i make/remake for some reason. Anybody had this problem? i mean, i have been running with my very first macros on my new keymap setup, so thats why it never worked for me.

I have four copies of wow in four diferent folders on a ssd harddrive. Cant realy get whats making the wows not save the macros i make =(

I had this same problem.

Do you use vista by chance? If you do, go to control panel, then to User Accounts. In there, you want to turn off User Account Control.

What's happening is that Vista is asking you for permision to allow WoW to save changes in the wtf folder, but you aren't getting promted, nor are the windows promting you showing up. Just shut it off, and vista will no longer ask for permission and your changes will get saved like they should.

[phara]

I'd like to be able to mouseover my healing target and set that focus for ToonC to heal. I'd like to use the middle mouse button. Is there a way to pass focus among Toons? Here is my poor attempt, any suggestions?

...

****************************
Bind mmb to "\" on ToonC

Attach following macro to "\" on ToonC:

/stopcasting
/focus [target=mouseover]
/cast [target=focus] healing wave
***************************

Can't be this easy can it??

The mouseover will be the mouseover of toon C, not of the toon that has focus. So this would work only if you are in the toon C window (there is no way for any toon to get the mouseover target of another toon).

Theoretically could have have FTL macros that do /target [target=mouseover] on the toon who pressed the keys and have other toons do targettarget on the same key binding. I say theoretically because targeting lag would prevent this from working, the mouseover target would not be acquired quick enough for the targettarget or assist to work.

The closest practical solution is you must actually target the toon you want to heal and have FTL macros on healers something like this:

/cast [target=targettarget,help][target=target,help][target=player]

And even with this you can have target lag issues - if you target the toon and hit the heal FTL key too quick you'll just heal yourself and not your target.

Due to target lag all I do one of the following (and all my heal macros start with /stopcasting):

a) mouse over to the window of the toon I want to heal and hit a FTL "healme" macro (FTL assist, heal target, targetlasttarget)
b) use specific heal party1, party2 etc macros I have bound to my numpad

This way I only have to press the key once and don't have to deal with target lag issues.

[Frosty]

Has anyone used Kavoom (or any similar software) with this setup?
I just added another computer to my collection..and all the mice are killing me, so I'm curious what my options might be.