Searching for Addon - Button Setup Quickchange

[Yagamoth]

Hi there

I'm looking for an easy way to simply exchange my setup of buttons. For example I'd like to Press "F10", "F11" or"F12" to switch. This would allow me to easily change the leader of my team. Or simply switch to a single player setup.

This would allow me to Alt-Tab to another window, press "F11" and give to leadership to the actual toon I'm on now.

I'm not sure how the Key-sharing programs would handle this, but I imagine that it doesn't matter whether I've Alt-tabbed to another window.

I know, I'm somewhat about the worst in explaining stuff (since english isn't my original language it's even worse). But I hope you understand what I mean.

Example:

Toon 1
Setup 1 - He's the leader
Button "1" --> Cast Lightning Bolt
Button "2" --> Cast Earth Shock
Button "3" --> /target self Lesser Healling Wave
Setup 2 - He's just a normal toon
Button "1" --> /assist main and cast Lightning Bolt
Button "2" --> /assist main and cast Lighting Bolt
Button "3" --> /target self Lesser Healling Wave
Setup 3 - He's a single player
Button "1" --> Cast Lightning Bolt
Button "2" --> Cast Earth Shock
Button "3" --> Lesser Healling Wave


Toon 2
Setup 1 - He's a toon
Button "1" --> /assist main and cast Lightning Bolt
Button "2" --> /assist main and cast Lighting Bolt
Button "3" --> /target self Lesser Healling Wave
Setup 2 - He's the leader
Button "1" --> Cast Lightning Bolt
Button "2" --> Cast Earth Shock
Button "3" --> /target self Lesser Healling Wave
Setup 3 - He's a single player
Button "1" --> Cast Lightning Bolt
Button "2" --> Cast Earth Shock
Button "3" --> Lesser Healling Wave

And so on... I couldn't find anything like that. But I could imagine I simply didn't choose the right keywords to search with.

[Ðeceased]

Am working on something like this but much much more extensive atm for 5 toons. But I'll give you a simplified version for your 3 spells are you dual boxing ? or 5? cos the setup changes somewhat with more toons :S

first things first

Your healing spell. You seem to always want that to target the toon itself rather then the main/brain.

for that I would bind "3" with:

/cast [target=player] Lesser healing Wave (leave "player" as it is.. don't change it for the character name)

put that macro on both characters in the same position.

Now I hope you are using Keyclone cos the next bit I've set up through keyclone and I have no idea how to do it otherwise.

Button 1 is going to be our main LB attack.
This is going to sound a little strange but you have to take your Lightning bolt spell from your spell book and place it where you have "1" keybound. No macros at this point. Do this on both characters.

Now create the following macros

on MrA:
/target [target=MrB,exists]
/assist
/cast [harm,nodead] Lightning Bolt

on MrB:
/target [target=MrA,exists]
/assist
/cast [harm,nodead Lightning Bolt

now bind that macro to say.. ctrl+alt+1

do the same with earth shock and bind them to 2 and ctrl+alt+2

remember the spell itself goes into the keybind you wish to use and the macro goes into a variation (i like using ctrl+alt or shift+ctrl+alt etc etc)

then open up keyclone and creat 2 new keymapping files:

MrA:
1 --> LBAT
ctrl+alt+1 --> LBBT
2 --> ESAT
ctrl+alt+2 --> ESBT

MrB:
1 --> LBBT
ctrl+alt+1 --> LBAT
2 --> ESBT
ctrl+alt+2 --> ESAT

the hotstrings I have listed above can be anything you want as long as they are the same for each toon.. I tent to go by a naming system like this:
Spell/Target. so "SpellA" means cast a spell on MrA.. "SpellAT" means cast a spell on MrA's target, SpellATT, means MrA's target target. SpellF means cast a spell on the Focus etc..
If you are unsure how they work, use the names i listed above for your toons

then once you made these two files, go to the command thingy in keyclone and make sure that you load the correct keymap file to each client.

what happens now is that depending on which client you have in the foreground, it will automatically send the other keybind to the other account and utilize the assist macros

so pressing 2 on ur current main, will send ctrl+alt+2 to your current alt.. as soon as you move over to your other toon.. it reverses and your new alt will assist your new main..

hope that's clear

[Ðeceased]

for 5 toons this gets a little more complicated ^^

i am using trinity bars 2 because my setup is going to be taking up close to 100 macros per character >.<

I'll quickly explain how it works for 5

Open up only one of your characters
as before start by placing the spell from the spell book in the keybind on your action bar.. I'll use LB again as an example in "1"

so 1 = a simpleLB

now open up the trinity bars thing and make a few hidden macros you'll need 5 per spell (ie 5 toons)

the 1st macro:
/target [target=MrA,exists]
/assist
/cast [harm,nodead] Lightning Bolt

2nd
/target [target=MrB,exists]
...

3rd
/target [target=MrC,exists]
...

4th
/target [target=MrD,exists]
...

5th
/target [target=MrE,exists]
...

then keybind them

so ur using "1" for that spell right? I suggest you bind them as follows.

1st : alt+1 (unless you already use alt+1)
2nd : ctrl+shift+1
3rd : shift+alt+1
4th : ctrl+shift+alt+1
5th : ctrl+alt+1

(replace 1 with 2 if you are moving along and do the same for different spells )

now you have to make 5 keymap files and this is where it will get a little confusing

MrA:
1 --> LBAT
ctrl+shift+1 --> LBBT
shift+alt+1 --> LBCT
ctrl+shift+alt+1 --> LBDT
ctrl+alt+1 --> LBET

MrB:
alt+1 --> LBAT
1 --> LBBT
shift+alt+1 --> LBCT
ctrl+shift+alt+1 --> LBDT
ctrl+alt+1 --> LBET

MrC:
alt+1 --> LBAT
ctrl+shift+1 --> LBBT
1 --> LBCT
ctrl+shift+alt+1 --> LBDT
ctrl+alt+1 --> LBET

MrD:
alt+1 --> LBAT
ctrl+shift+1 --> LBBT
shift+alt+1 --> LBCT
1 --> LBDT
ctrl+alt+1 --> LBET

MrE:
alt+1 --> LBAT
ctrl+shift+1 --> LBBT
shift+alt+1 --> LBCT
ctrl+shift+alt+1 --> LBDT
1 --> LBET

notice the "1" is moving down the list? (it doesn't shift them it replaces them (alt+1 stays in the same spot!). Imagine it like this.. when you press 1 under MrA, you want it to broadcast the Spell "LBAT". the others then pick that up and press the button LBAT, which for them is alt+1.. and if you look at the macro we bound that to our assist MrA macro. MrA just casts his normal spell

Now before you start.. save the trinity bars templace as.. "sham Team" or something. close the game down and go to the WoW directory and go look for the trinity bars files under WTF/<account name>/<Realm>/<Character name>/Saved Variables (i think at least).. should be 4 or 5 files named trinitybars2.lua and similar..
copy these files into your other characters WTF folders so they all have the same setup. it will copy all the macros and keybindings over to each character.

then load the keymaps to each client in the keyclone command thingy and start the game.

when you now move your mouse over to a client and start controlling him.. your other toons will automatically assist him without the need to press any other buttons..

you can do this same thing for almost any spell you like.

just remember, spells such as totems you don't need to do these sort of things for as they require no target..


oh and btw... I know.. I'm crazy!

shammies are the easiest class to macro up and I have close to 100 macros on each toon :S just wait till i get my hands on a warlock team >.<

I might make a video at some point to explain this a little further

[Ðeceased]

alternatively if that was too much for you.. you can go the focus route..

make all your macros use the

/target [target=focus,exists]
/assist
/cast some spell

and bind

F10 to a macro:
/target MrA
/focus

F11:
/target MrB
/focus

F12:
/target MrC
/focus

etc

but:
for MrA make F10 a /clearfocus macro
MrB make F11 a /clearfocus macro
etc...

that way when you switch main.. he wont confuse himself by trying to focus himself/herslef and assist.. :S assisting myself would be too confusing :S

then whenever you want to switch you just press the button and they all switch assists.

[Yagamoth]

Old man, I love this board... Gotta read this after work xD

Thanks in advance ^^

[Ðeceased]

hehe just wait till you get round to doing it U'll hate me ^^

basically the advantage over the simple focus method is this:

you gain focus as a tool to use in game (to target particular enemies, or to focus a friend (if you are taking him into a dungeon, so you can heal him quickly)
no confusion (after the initial set-up ofc >.<) as you just move your mouse to whichever toon is still alive.
It's faster.. no need to press a button to shift the assists
and it's rly fun to confuse the crap out of opponents when you cycle through mains in the blink of an eye.. (oh main stunned.. move mouse to next client WHAM!!!)

it was rly worth the effort for me.. the ability to switch so easaly was the defining point for me, makes gameplay so much more enjoyable removes a lot of frustration for me

if however, the above isn't so important for you personally then by all means the focus method works like a charm

[odon]

For easy and quick action bars change you can use Simple Action Sets. It saves / restores action bars. BTW I don't know if you can bind key to premade configuration for fast switching, but it's a start.

[Ðeceased]

For easy and quick action bars change you can use Simple Action Sets. It saves / restores action bars. BTW I don't know if you can bind key to premade configuration for fast switching, but it's a start.

I originally thought of this too, but I had problems finding one that worked in combat too.. I'm not 100% but I think [combat] locks down your keybindings and macros. If rumour is anything to go by, I think this was used in order to prevent bots from reassigning macros midfight etc i dunno ..

[Yagamoth]

lol... I couldn't wait reading. Thank you for your explanations. I'm an informatician and I guess there should be no problem with the single keys. But I also like to use alt+ anykey on a single character. My druid has currently 40+ shortkeys available for skills and equip stuff, and I would like to keep that.

Your setup is awesome and I didn't know keyclone can do such stuff.

But I've still got some sort of a question now, I guess you couldn't exactly read what I meant since I'm writing too ... clumsy. Sure, your idea about the setup is even better than what I'm thinking about, but there would be some "programming" involved on keyclone. I personally thought more about a direct solutiion in WoW itself.

For example I'm currently using bartender. It does have a save function to save the key bindings. But since I'll have to switch fast in combat once my main dies, I cannot click on every single toon --> load --> profile --> leader 2 or so.

ps: Now reading your thing again I'll sure give it a shot. It seems to be far more advanced - the only issue simply would be that I'd have to simplify my keybindings...
pps: Btw. I just started doing some tries with keyclone, but I still don't know anything about it. Would that thing also work with 2 Clients running on 1 PC and 3 on the other?

[Yagamoth]

For easy and quick action bars change you can use Simple Action Sets. It saves / restores action bars. BTW I don't know if you can bind key to premade configuration for fast switching, but it's a start.

I originally thought of this too, but I had problems finding one that worked in combat too.. I'm not 100% but I think [combat] locks down your keybindings and macros. If rumour is anything to go by, I think this was used in order to prevent bots from reassigning macros midfight etc i dunno ..

Well, that would fully convince me to your system - You can ignore my other post ^^

edit edit: Well, I just thought about the totem-thing. It's correct, there is no need for macros - simply press the same button. Half of my shortcuts are based on this. Therefor I guess I shouldn't have this much trouble simplyfying my keys