Substitute Mage For Warrior in WMMMP?

[Vivan]

I think the MMMMP groups focus on fast XP to 60 & mostly avoid bosses to get to 60. Once they get to 60 and start getting better geared they can take on more and more bosses.

It seems to me that MMMMP is likely the fastest team to level to cap if you take the above approach and avoid bosses.

The above being said I think a team with a Tank is the most flexible/viable overall and safest for most folk.

How do you think LLLLP compares for levelling speed, faster than WMMMP but slower than MMMMP?

[nodoze]

How do you think LLLLP compares for levelling speed, faster than WMMMP but slower than MMMMP?

I don't think anything is faster than MMMMP except maybe MMMMM if you severely limit your content (just pull & AoE trash) and even then MMMMP may win when you factor in spirit walking instead of rezzing (not sure).

MMMMP (or MMMHealer+Tank) get it's first AoE via AE really early (level 14) and it is an instant spell.

LLLLP (or LLLHealer+Tank) get it's first AoE via Rain of Fire at 20 and it is a channeled spell (and isn't the best in damage). Lock AoE doesn't get serious until level 30 with HellFire but even then it is still channeled and does damage to the Locks so you can have issues with push-back and need AoE healing...

With the above in mind I think most LLLLP groups were/are DoT focused until 30 and I suspect both MMMMP and WMMMP teams can beat or at least equal them in speed with AoE.

Personally I am taking a different approach as I focusing on leveling my Paladin Main to cap with friends (in my 50s now) and have a MLLLP team waiting for him in their 20s. Once my Paladin is 60 I plan to get him AoE grinding gear/consumables and spec him something like 30/21/0 and then use him to Power Level my MLLLP alts (rotating them out). When I get them all to cap my regular dungeon team will likely be:

Paladin Tank+3 Locks+3 Pets+Priest

Swap-wise my brother's Paladin may come in to Tank and I can then heal on my Paladin (or the Priest). I plan to have at least 1 Imp with improved Blood Pact and improved Fire Shield and that leaves me 2 off-Tank VoidWalker options if I ever need/want them (though I may end up with 3 imps most/all of the time).

Overall I like the above composition as everyone can be very tanky yet still have strong AoE for the group and hopefully just face-tank through most grinding. It may be slower to cap but my experiences at cap is more what I am focused on.

The Mage is on my 6th account and likely will mainly be used to port my team and give me free water/food. I may also use him to test some AoE techniques and power leveling options as most of my AoE experience to date is Paladin AoE farming in Vanilla -> WoTLK and I like to be able to contrast/compare.

[Madsage]

WMMMP is faster than MMMMP once you hit BRD, mages just melt there and kiting gets hard when mobs net you, but before that MMMMP is by far the fastest comp