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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    That's why I mentioned you'd need to adjust the HS/cleave depending on your gear level. Your rage generation is dependent on how good your gear is. Better weapons generate more rage.
    The rage generation also depends on how much dmg you take. The warrior who is tanking the mobs in a dungeon will have significant more rage than the other warriors. Using the same dmg rota on all warriors sounds suboptimal since they won't have a similiar amount of rage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    No solution is going to be perfect. That's the trade off when you box games. Your rotation is rarely going to be executed as flawlessly as a character being actively controlled.
    Well, on many classes the PvE dmg rota can be executed flawlessly as a multiboxer. Especially in classis wow where the dmg rotations are much less complex than in BFA.
    Warrior is here rather the exception because rage makes their dmg rota harder to control than on other classes.
    Last edited by Gala : 07-16-2019 at 09:21 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gala View Post
    Warrior is here rather the exception because rage makes their dmg rota harder to control than on other classes.
    If you adjust your macros appropriately the DPS will be close enough to make little difference. Heroic strike accounts for around 30% of your overall DPS as a warrior. Missing a few might reduce that by 5-10% at most.

    Suboptimal warrior DPS is still better than mage DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    If you adjust your macros appropriately the DPS will be close enough to make little difference. Heroic strike accounts for around 30% of your overall DPS as a warrior. Missing a few might reduce that by 5-10% at most.
    Missing cleaves on mob packs sound like a rather huge DPS loss though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Suboptimal warrior DPS is still better than mage DPS.
    In case of raids I believe that multiboxing multiple mages would be more efficient and easier to control than warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gala View Post
    Missing cleaves on mob packs sound like a rather huge DPS loss though.

    In case of raids I believe that multiboxing multiple mages would be more efficient and easier to control than warriors.
    That depends on the encounter. Some encounters melee just stack and DPS while ranged have to deal with more movement and decursing.

    While cleaving packs you're going to be using cleave, whirlwind and/or sweeping strikes. Cleave uses a lot more rage than heroic strike so there's less opportunity to pool too much between cleaves. As a percentage of your total damage done, missing a cleave every now and then isn't going to make or break you.

    Even frost mage with a 1 button rotation is impacted by not being able to manage movement efficiently. If your cast bars aren't perfectly synced and one mage moves while frostbolt was 75% cast, then repositions and begins casting again, that's 3-5 seconds you've done zero DPS. As I've said, you won't be able to execute any classes rotation flawlessly regardless how simple because you won't ever have the same level of control as a single player.

    The nice thing about vanilla is that doesn't really matter. None of the raids are that difficult that you're struggling against enrage timers as long as everybody is at least competent.

    If you're that concerned about micromanaging hs/cleave you could always make a bar swap macro to manually manage when each of your characters dumps rage. I just think the DPS increase will be minimal versus the extra effort.
    Last edited by Apatheist : 07-16-2019 at 10:02 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    That depends on the encounter. Some encounters melee just stack and DPS while ranged have to deal with more movement and decursing.
    Ofc every boss encounter is different and makes one role easier than another
    Nonetheless it's generally easier to multibox range damage dealer in a raid than melees.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    There is no encounter in any classic raid tier that can't be easily managed while boxing. I would think mages would be a great class choice with this in mind. Stacking 6-8 mages in a raid is great with ignite stacks and decursing plays a big role in a lot of fights.
    It seems like we agree on that point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gala View Post
    It seems like we agree on that point...
    Sure but not because range are easier than melee. That is definitely the case in other expansions but in vanilla melee is frequently the easier role, not having to deal with any of the movement, CC or support functions casters do.

    If his intent is to box as part of a raiding guild then the only two real options are mages and warriors since it's not viable to stack any other class heavily. Bringing 8-12 warriors and 6-10 mages is standard. All of the other DPS classes are limited to 2-4 slots.
    Last edited by Apatheist : 07-16-2019 at 04:29 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Sure but not because range are easier than melee.
    Then pls elaborate the reasons why you believe that mages are the better choice for raiding. It's a bit contradicting to what you actualy say here because according to you warriors would be easier to control in boss encounters and deal more dps than mages.
    That are both solid arguments to pick warriors over mages for raiding as boxer.
    Last edited by Gala : 07-18-2019 at 12:42 PM

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