Comparison of squads for 5 man dungeons

[Hksix]

I can think of a few ways to handle heroic strike and cleave. None of them will be flawless but they should be good enough for grinding dungeons.

A two step ISB action with a castsequence macro would be the simplest option.

Step 1
#showtooltip
/cast [nostance:1] Battle Stance
/cast Overpower

Step 2
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=6/combat Mortal Strike, !Heroic Strike

Haven't tested with the new API but this should automatically use overpower whenever it procs, pool rage for MS/BT and then use one cleave or heroic strike while your primary skill is on cooldown. If you get to a point where you're frequently pooling too much rage you could add another HS to the castsequence. It depends on your gear level and weapon.

After thinking about it I see 2 potential problems with this.

1.) if you are only generating minimal rage then you are losing dps by forcing a heroic strike instead of waiting to MS again. Heroic strike use means less white hits = less rage coming in = less damage going out, which is why at higher levels it’s only used when you have excess rage
2.) the other problem is the opposite. If you are getting too much rage then you’ll need to bind heroic strike separately because you can’t dump enough rage as you want. I don’t see this being as big of an issue as the first one

[Apatheist]

48 minutes for a single pack... I think I'd rather watch reruns of Ow My Balls.

True but the payoff is pretty huge. https://classic.wowhead.com/item=232...aced-servo-arm

2.8 Speed one handed mace that's pretty close to anything outside of KT weapons. Also not unique so you can DW them. The fact that you can solo farm these weapons is pretty ridiculous. MMO Players are a lot "wiser" than they were during vanilla. I suspect stuff like this will be common knowledge and we'll see a ton of players who have never even killed a Naxx boss running around with these equipped.

After thinking about it I see 2 potential problems with this.

That's why I mentioned you'd need to adjust the HS/cleave depending on your gear level. Your rage generation is dependent on how good your gear is. Better weapons generate more rage. Once you have two decent one handers and 8%+ hit you will almost always have at least enough rage to weave one cleave between whirlwinds or heroic strike between bloodthirsts. No solution is going to be perfect. That's the trade off when you box games. Your rotation is rarely going to be executed as flawlessly as a character being actively controlled.

In PvP I wouldn't bother with cleave or HS at all. I'd pool rage and actively MS/WW/execute on all characters for maximum burst.

[Acidburning]

True but the payoff is pretty huge. https://classic.wowhead.com/item=232...aced-servo-arm

2.8 Speed one handed mace that's pretty close to anything outside of KT weapons. Also not unique so you can DW them. The fact that you can solo farm these weapons is pretty ridiculous. MMO Players are a lot "wiser" than they were during vanilla. I suspect stuff like this will be common knowledge and we'll see a ton of players who have never even killed a Naxx boss running around with these equipped.

we gave 2 of these to our enh shammy. I main'd a priest in vanilla. Pretty fun to healbot him in bgs. I forgot about naxx trash farming. Thanks for the reminder :]

[Apatheist]

Some useful info here about resetting dungeons to farm/grind efficiently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuEzXay-PbA&t=550s

[Moorea]

Some useful info here about resetting dungeons to farm/grind efficiently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuEzXay-PbA&t=550s

Thanks, it's not in the video (or at least not at 550s) but it is in the description:

Here is how to do it!
1: Join a group with a friend who is questing/farming in the world/or can chill in a party while you farm! THEY NEED TO BE LEADER!
2: Solo clear your dungeon!
3: When you are ready to reset tell your party member you are logging out and ask him/her to reset the dungeon as soon as you go offline.
4: logout and wait for your party member to reset the dungeon, if you are not in direct communication with them give them 20-30 seconds to reset before logging back on.
5: Once you log on the dungeon will be reset and you will find yourself back at the start!
TIP! - some dungeons that have multiple entrances may put you back at the start of a different entrance portal (Mara runs) If you are at the wrong portal, zone out, and run to the correct entrance - it won’t count as multiple resets as you are entering the same dungeon lockout but just at a different location.

[Apatheist]

Join a group with a friend who is questing/farming

In the video he also says you can do it with an alt.

Create a raid, invite your 5 main characters plus a random alt (can be level 1.)

When you want to reset log out your party, log in your alt and reset. When you log your party back in all of the characters that were inside the dungeon will be at the entrance. The only downside to this is that you can't complete quests while in a raid group so if you're leveling you'll have to do it the old fashioned way. At least for your first clear.

[Twl231]

So....have a mage in your party and a lock....

1. Finish dungeon
2. Have your mage portal/hearth to a city.
3. Log out on your other 4 toons
4. Mage resets the dungeon
5. Log back into your other 4 toons
6. They should be back at the start of the instance
7. Summon the mage back (might have to step outside instance to summon)

[nodoze]

So....have a mage in your party and a lock....

1. Finish dungeon
2. Have your mage portal/hearth to a city.
3. Log out on your other 4 toons
4. Mage resets the dungeon
5. Log back into your other 4 toons
6. They should be back at the start of the instance
7. Summon the mage back (might have to step outside instance to summon)

I think people were recommending a 6th character which could be on one of your 5 accounts. One recent discussion on how to do this:
https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...l=1#post421818

[Gala]

That's why I mentioned you'd need to adjust the HS/cleave depending on your gear level. Your rage generation is dependent on how good your gear is. Better weapons generate more rage.

The rage generation also depends on how much dmg you take. The warrior who is tanking the mobs in a dungeon will have significant more rage than the other warriors. Using the same dmg rota on all warriors sounds suboptimal since they won't have a similiar amount of rage.

No solution is going to be perfect. That's the trade off when you box games. Your rotation is rarely going to be executed as flawlessly as a character being actively controlled.

Well, on many classes the PvE dmg rota can be executed flawlessly as a multiboxer. Especially in classis wow where the dmg rotations are much less complex than in BFA.
Warrior is here rather the exception because rage makes their dmg rota harder to control than on other classes.

[Apatheist]

Warrior is here rather the exception because rage makes their dmg rota harder to control than on other classes.

If you adjust your macros appropriately the DPS will be close enough to make little difference. Heroic strike accounts for around 30% of your overall DPS as a warrior. Missing a few might reduce that by 5-10% at most.

Suboptimal warrior DPS is still better than mage DPS.