Classic thought on follow/pvp realm

[Apatheist]

I would say from my experience, frost mages are one of the worst world pvp specs in the game. Great for 1v1 honor duels, but open world pvp and free action potions turn them into nothing but roadkill for this group.

You must be fighting some pretty terrible mages. Frost is probably the strongest solo world PvP spec in the game for fighting outnumbered -- particularly against melee. If you potion all they have to do is kite you until it ends, blink your intercept, etc. Mages are known for being the hard counter to warriors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh_cLN66zHA

You'll kill people with all most any group if they're bad and it's 5v1. In group versus group content when you're fighting a equal or more characters and they have heals, etc. you'll just get picked apart.

SL Warlocks with healer support are a much better choice for Horde IMO. Their rot is amazing, they're super tanky and a lot of their damage is instant and doesn't even require you to be facing your target.

[Purpleflavor]

You must be fighting some pretty terrible mages. Frost is probably the strongest solo world PvP spec in the game for fighting outnumbered -- particularly against melee. If you potion all they have to do is kite you until it ends, blink your intercept, etc. Mages are known for being the hard counter to warriors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh_cLN66zHA

You'll kill people with all most any group if they're bad and it's 5v1. In group versus group content when you're fighting a equal or more characters and they have heals, etc. you'll just get picked apart.

SL Warlocks with healer support are a much better choice for Horde IMO. Their rot is amazing, they're super tanky and a lot of their damage is instant and doesn't even require you to be facing your target.

i dunno, maybe you only have experience with terrible multiboxer pvpers. A single frost mage would be a joke. You mention things like a mage being able to kite by blinking intercept as if you've never thought of staggering intercepts and such. You also mention versing groups of equal or larger size as if you arent experienced enough to understand a group of competent skilled pvpers will always beat a single competent skilled multiboxer.

either way, hope op is enjoying the discussion and getting a better feel for what group they want to run. I still vote for shaman + 4 war. The sight of 4 warriors cleaving something down with windfury is something to behold. Dont blink.

[Apatheist]

a group of competent skilled pvpers will always beat a single competent skilled multiboxer.

That's just not the case. Myself and many others have had 2200+ arena teams through various expansions. Composition matters a lot and picking a team that has no way to avoid being CC'd outside of a 2 minute potion cooldown isn't ideal. I guess it depends how focused you are on PvP though. If you're mainly interested in PvE but just want to be able to kill people trying to gank you while you're running to dungeons then warrior/shaman will be fine.

Elemental shamans will definitely be a strong pick for PvP once you get a bit of gear. I'm just not a huge fan of shaman DPS in PvE and that puts me off playing them.

[Purpleflavor]

Elemental shamans will definitely be a strong pick for PvP once you get a bit of gear. I'm just not a huge fan of shaman DPS in PvE and that puts me off playing them.

oh the glory days of BC shaman. Classic BC is going to be amazing.

[nodoze]

... I still vote for shaman + 4 war. The sight of 4 warriors cleaving something down with windfury is something to behold. Dont blink.

Would 4 Warriors with Ironfoe+ThrashBlade+HandOfJustice+CursaderEnchants +WindFuryTotem be about max DPS?