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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRod_KS View Post
    Could you go through how you set up your click bars for healing? I am having trouble following some of the other guides in this forum and I see you have them set up in your screenshots. I (and I'm sure others too) would really appreciate it
    Sure.

    Apps 2 man Healing Setup



    Ok, so I’m feeling under the weather, so this will be short and rely a lot on the pictures.

    To set up healing, I used a total of (2) clickbars, changed my in-game keybinds, used the in-game targeting, and used the left side action bar to put my healing skills.. two of them; the small or light heal, and the big heal, and bound the slot in an in-game keybind.

    Since doing this, I have added (2) more clickbars to heal the companions. And two more targeting features, one called “Target My Comp” and the other called “Target Other Comp”. The pictures will reflect the setup before I added the extra two…sorry about that.

    First, Just like when setting up the Target Me. Alter the in-game keybind so that it is the key that points to the companions.

    Next we need to make the actual
    heal keymaps. Go to the Control section, and create 4 new keymaps. Label them appropriately so that there is no way to get confused. I called mine… “Heal Appology (my warrior) Light”, “Heal Appology Big”, “Heal Appstoo Light”, and “Heal Appstoo Big” *Reminder* don’t forget to make (4) more for your toons companions. Label them as Heal (toon name) Companion, and Heal (toon name) Companion… I .e “Heal Appology Companion Light”, and “Heal Appology Companion Big”.. etc.


    The picture below, I show that we are pressing the ESC key to clear any channeled skill or action. Then pressing the appropriate Target in game key bind… (for example my in-game target character for Appstoo is F10), Then pressing the specific location of the heal skill I placed on the left side action bar, and in-game keybind for where that key is. (In this case I used F6 for the light heal)

    5th Grade explanation – When I activate the Heal Appstoo Light, the software will send ‘ESC’ to stop casting, then F10, (Targeting my toon Appstoo), then F6 which is the light
    heal.


    Reference the healing question setup in this thread also...
    http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...-healing-setup
    Last edited by Apps : 02-07-2012 at 11:27 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apps View Post
    Reference the healing question setup in this thread also... http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...-healing-setup
    Yeah, I read that and I just can't seem to get clickbars to work. I tried Chazz's guide and there's something I'm just not getting.

    For one thing, his guide shows going into the game and dragging/resizing the click bar. My clickbar ingame is fixed in location and size, so I'm guessing I've missed a setting somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRod_KS View Post
    Yeah, I read that and I just can't seem to get clickbars to work. I tried Chazz's guide and there's something I'm just not getting.

    For one thing, his guide shows going into the game and dragging/resizing the click bar. My clickbar ingame is fixed in location and size, so I'm guessing I've missed a setting somewhere
    That specific point was brought up when I did it as well. I was also unable to resize mine. so I had to do it manually. I could move them. Just not resize them. Its probably user error tho.

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    Could you expand more on the spam dps..how does that work and how do you have in configured on both isboxer and swtor. I am very new to this but am not new to programming and am slowly struggling thru.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apps View Post
    Sure.

    Apps 2 man Healing Setup



    Ok, so I’m feeling under the weather, so this will be short and rely a lot on the pictures.

    To set up healing, I used a total of (2) clickbars, changed my in-game keybinds, used the in-game targeting, and used the left side action bar to put my healing skills.. two of them; the small or light heal, and the big heal, and bound the slot in an in-game keybind.

    Since doing this, I have added (2) more clickbars to heal the companions. And two more targeting features, one called “Target My Comp” and the other called “Target Other Comp”. The pictures will reflect the setup before I added the extra two…sorry about that.

    First, Just like when setting up the Target Me. Alter the in-game keybind so that it is the key that points to the companions.

    Next we need to make the actual
    heal keymaps. Go to the Control section, and create 4 new keymaps. Label them appropriately so that there is no way to get confused. I called mine… “Heal Appology (my warrior) Light”, “Heal Appology Big”, “Heal Appstoo Light”, and “Heal Appstoo Big” *Reminder* don’t forget to make (4) more for your toons companions. Label them as Heal (toon name) Companion, and Heal (toon name) Companion… I .e “Heal Appology Companion Light”, and “Heal Appology Companion Big”.. etc.


    The picture below, I show that we are pressing the ESC key to clear any channeled skill or action. Then pressing the appropriate Target in game key bind… (for example my in-game target character for Appstoo is F10), Then pressing the specific location of the heal skill I placed on the left side action bar, and in-game keybind for where that key is. (In this case I used F6 for the light heal)

    5th Grade explanation – When I activate the Heal Appstoo Light, the software will send ‘ESC’ to stop casting, then F10, (Targeting my toon Appstoo), then F6 which is the light
    heal.


    Reference the healing question setup in this thread also...
    http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...-healing-setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by talonness View Post
    Could you expand more on the spam dps..how does that work and how do you have in configured on both isboxer and swtor. I am very new to this but am not new to programming and am slowly struggling thru.
    Ok, so, you quoted my post about healing setups, but are asking about spam dps, and how it works.

    so, I'll just answer the "how it works".

    A thread was posted here, that is probably a good way of putting it.

    http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...legal-in-SWTOR

    Basically the setup is like this.
    Skill 1 has a 10 sec GCD
    Skill 2 has a 15 sec GCD
    Skill 3 has an instant GCD
    Skill 4 has a 30 sec GCD
    Skill 5 has a 2 sec channel


    There are only two "good" methods to setup DPS Spam keys. One uses timers for each action step and the other uses the "popsicle" method.
    I use Popsicle method.

    We setup the key to press all the skills at once. So its like pressing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 at the same time. Problem is, if we set that up like that in ISBoxer, then SWTOR reads it in that order too. So 1 would go off (because its first), then 2 (because 1 is on GCD) and then 1 would fire again, because its first on the list and its GCD is ready. So the key when spammed would just do skill 1 and 2.. maybe occasionally fire a 3... maybe.

    But knowing this, we can arrange them in order, and let the software do what it does.

    Rearrange them like this
    Key one
    Skill 4 has a 30 sec GCD
    Skill 2 has a 15 sec GCD
    Skill 1 has a 10 sec GCD
    Skill 3 has an instant GCD

    Key two
    Skill 5 has a 2 sec channel

    Since Skill 5 is a channel skill, we dont want to clip it too much with all the other skills. So we should put it on another key, with fewer keys and maybe something with a similar GCD timer.

    Key one will cast in that order, because the one before it will be on GCD. So spamming they key, fires 4, then 2, then 1, then 3 a few times, till 1 or 2 are ready... remember its always going to fire the one above it, so long as the games timer is ready.

    I prefer this method (although it may be believed to be a little sloppy), because its simple, and fast. The timer method requires getting all the different (Do not go to next Step until XX seconds) timers done exactly right.

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    UPS guy arrived promptly at 10:00 am Saturday morning; 16-gig RAM upgrades open and shut case.

    Prior to installation with (2) accounts running my resource load was commonly between 75-80%; post installation of the 16-gigs of DDR3 my 2-box runs at 50%. Settings maxed out on my main screen 24”, and my second monitor running med settings. G
    uessing my net resource load will be back to 75-80% once I add the additional (2) accounts having all the setting on low save my main screen.

    Next step will be to add the (2) new accounts; I have a question or two.
    1. Should I set up my other monitor to have my healer visible at all times with my (2) dps stacked underneath; the reason I ask would be for general view ability, using my primary screen facing my character group and my healer on the second screen.

    1. Should I set up my other monitor to show all my toons in little boxes; this is how I ran my 5-wow accounts on 2-monitors. I have concerns doing this with SWTOR as the camera is whacky as we all know and I am not sure how much information viewing 2 screens looking at the sky with a third staring at the ground will help.

    Independent movement question – My current setup has my primary character utilizing the WASD keys set to do not pass, the UP,DOWN arrows are passed only to my second character. How have 4-boxers managed independent movement beyond that? I can think of one flashpoint where independent movement is very critical as one character gets targeted and the boss chases you much like the “Big Bad Wolf” event from WoW. I can also see a need for independent movement to help facilitate getting the group into class/group quest instances.

    Will be doing some experimenting this week with my Powertech/Sorcerer since I really like the setup that Merc tossed out; PT, Sorc,Sorc,Sorc and driving with my healer. Initial pull would be through the PT using DFA, and then quickly switching screens, so I can run my sorcerers through my healer with the PT on a separate set of threat key rotations. My fall back ATM is the Juggs, Sorc,Sorc,Sorc as I am comfortable running through my tank screen.

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    Sorry about the wrong posting...and thank you for the help...much appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by Apps View Post
    Ok, so, you quoted my post about healing setups, but are asking about spam dps, and how it works.

    so, I'll just answer the "how it works".

    A thread was posted here, that is probably a good way of putting it.

    http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...legal-in-SWTOR

    Basically the setup is like this.
    Skill 1 has a 10 sec GCD
    Skill 2 has a 15 sec GCD
    Skill 3 has an instant GCD
    Skill 4 has a 30 sec GCD
    Skill 5 has a 2 sec channel


    There are only two "good" methods to setup DPS Spam keys. One uses timers for each action step and the other uses the "popsicle" method.
    I use Popsicle method.

    We setup the key to press all the skills at once. So its like pressing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 at the same time. Problem is, if we set that up like that in ISBoxer, then SWTOR reads it in that order too. So 1 would go off (because its first), then 2 (because 1 is on GCD) and then 1 would fire again, because its first on the list and its GCD is ready. So the key when spammed would just do skill 1 and 2.. maybe occasionally fire a 3... maybe.

    But knowing this, we can arrange them in order, and let the software do what it does.

    Rearrange them like this
    Key one
    Skill 4 has a 30 sec GCD
    Skill 2 has a 15 sec GCD
    Skill 1 has a 10 sec GCD
    Skill 3 has an instant GCD

    Key two
    Skill 5 has a 2 sec channel

    Since Skill 5 is a channel skill, we dont want to clip it too much with all the other skills. So we should put it on another key, with fewer keys and maybe something with a similar GCD timer.

    Key one will cast in that order, because the one before it will be on GCD. So spamming they key, fires 4, then 2, then 1, then 3 a few times, till 1 or 2 are ready... remember its always going to fire the one above it, so long as the games timer is ready.

    I prefer this method (although it may be believed to be a little sloppy), because its simple, and fast. The timer method requires getting all the different (Do not go to next Step until XX seconds) timers done exactly right.

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