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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercbeast View Post
    So, if I run 3 characters and I jump into a warzone. I can jump between ANY character and the other 2 will automatically follow the new lead? If this is the case I might activate a third account. I don't want to run 4 because I think 4 is unweildy in warzones due to them being 8v8. I mean it can work. What held me back from 3 is the problem with the group randomly shuffling for the third person always.
    They won't automatically follow your new Lead, but you can set the character that you just switched to as your new Lead using the Set Target key. Pressing it normally will cycle through F2-F5 for your first Slave and using it with the Shift modifier will cycle through F2-F5 for your second Slave . This takes seconds to do.

    So let's say you're running three characters. You are Leading with Character A, but then you switch to Character B and want to Lead with that one.
    At this point you press the Set Target key to cycle through F2-F5 for Character A, until he/she targets your Lead. And then you press the Set Target key together with the Shift modifier to cycle through F2-F5 for Character C, until he/she targets your Lead. Then you're done and your Assist and Follow keys will now make Character A & C Assist & Follow Character B.
    The system takes into account which character you are using the Set Target key from as well, so the same keypresses will work on all characters (if you switch to Character C for example, the Set Target key will cycle through F2-F5 for Character A and using the shift modifier it will cycle through the keys for Character B).
    Hope that makes sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazz View Post
    They won't automatically follow your new Lead, but you can set the character that you just switched to as your new Lead using the Set Target key. Pressing it normally will cycle through F2-F5 for your first Slave and using it with the Shift modifier will cycle through F2-F5 for your second Slave . This takes seconds to do.

    So let's say you're running three characters. You are Leading with Character A, but then you switch to Character B and want to Lead with that one.
    At this point you press the Set Target key to cycle through F2-F5 for Character A, until he/she targets your Lead. And then you press the Set Target key together with the Shift modifier to cycle through F2-F5 for Character C, until he/she targets your Lead. Then you're done and your Assist and Follow keys will now make Character A & C Assist & Follow Character B.
    The system takes into account which character you are using the Set Target key from as well, so the same keypresses will work on all characters (if you switch to Character C for example, the Set Target key will cycle through F2-F5 for Character A and using the shift modifier it will cycle through the keys for Character B).
    Hope that makes sense!
    Ya, I watched the video and got it. It's essentially the same method I use now. I set mine up before the set target command so I couldn't have one keybind cycle, so I setup 4 per character

    Until some sort of simple macro system arrives I imagine 2x or 4x will be the easiest setups to manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercbeast View Post
    Ya, I watched the video and got it. It's essentially the same method I use now. I set mine up before the set target command so I couldn't have one keybind cycle, so I setup 4 per character

    Until some sort of simple macro system arrives I imagine 2x or 4x will be the easiest setups to manage.
    For PvE I don't see any type of setup being a problem, but for PvP I would probably agree since you may have the need to instantly switch Lead if your Lead dies. Altough that should be possible to "fix" by simply using a similar system where you pre-define keys before a match begins. The potential problems that could still occur, off of the top of my head, would be if someone leaves the WarZone and someone else joins (assuming this is possible, I haven't done any PvP yet) and as a result shifts around the Party again that you are in with your characters. But other than that, and the hassle of cycling through keys before each match, it should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazz View Post
    They won't automatically follow your new Lead, but you can set the character that you just switched to as your new Lead using the Set Target key.
    Is there some way you could use, "send this keymap when I switch to this window" so that it automatically changes your lead to whichever client you have in your main region?

    Quote Originally Posted by chazz View Post
    Altough that should be possible to "fix" by simply using a similar system where you pre-define keys before a match begins
    I'm confused now. I thought you said your follow/assist system works regardless of which group slot your characters are in or who joins the 4th slot?
    Last edited by Apatheist : 02-02-2012 at 08:55 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Is there some way you could use, "send this keymap when I switch to this window" so that it automatically changes your lead to whichever client you have in your main region?
    I'm confused now. I thought you said your follow/assist system works regardless of which group slot your characters are in or who joins the 4th slot?
    The only way to automatically change Lead to whatever character you switch to is to pre-define the Target keys for all of your Slaves. That's two keys for dual-boxing, six keys for triple-boxing and twelve keys for quad-boxing.
    Reason for this being that when you switch character the others has to already know which Party Member Slot that character is in; and this can change if you have a wildcard slot in your Party.
    Now, when I created the Set Target System I mostly had PvE in mind since I don't do PvP myself and I wanted the solution to be as flexible as possible. This is why you define the Target keys each time you switch character; to work in any situation.
    That said, while it only takes me ~5 seconds to set up a new Lead using my system, I realize that 5 seconds in PvP can be a trip to the moon and back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazz View Post
    The only way to automatically change Lead to whatever character you switch to is to pre-define the Target keys for all of your Slaves. That's two keys for dual-boxing, six keys for triple-boxing and twelve keys for quad-boxing.
    Reason for this being that when you switch character the others has to already know which Party Member Slot that character is in; and this can change if you have a wildcard slot in your Party.
    Now, when I created the Set Target System I mostly had PvE in mind since I don't do PvP myself and I wanted the solution to be as flexible as possible. This is why you define the Target keys each time you switch character; to work in any situation.
    That said, while it only takes me ~5 seconds to set up a new Lead using my system, I realize that 5 seconds in PvP can be a trip to the moon and back.
    I work night shift, so maybe I'm over tired, but your response left me more confused

    When you say you're defining the target keys, you mean you're quickly tabbing to each client and using a hotkey to manually set your lead? I think I'm confusing myself more, I might just have a go at setting up your system so I understand it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    I work night shift, so maybe I'm over tired, but your response left me more confused

    When you say you're defining the target keys, you mean you're quickly tabbing to each client and using a hotkey to manually set your lead? I think I'm confusing myself more, I might just have a go at setting up your system so I understand it better.
    No, it's all done from the Lead character.

    I have made the update to Version 2 now which allows instant Lead switch.
    Thread: http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...-Target-System
    Last edited by chazz : 02-03-2012 at 08:21 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazz View Post
    No, it's all done from the Lead character.
    It was difficult to understand just by reading. However, once I started installing it and setting it up it was very simple and works nicely.

    Great work, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    It was difficult to understand just by reading. However, once I started installing it and setting it up it was very simple and works nicely.

    Great work, mate.
    Thanks! Great to hear it worked out for you!
    And yeah, I figured it could be a bit hard to grasp completely by just reading which is why I created the video for the original version, I might make a short video later for version 2 as well.
    (hope you are using version 2, for dual- and triple-boxing it's much superior)

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