New management discussion

[Zzc2]

For me, the links to keyclone and Isboxer at the top weren't considered advertisement spots, but links to multiboxing software that people could use. I always thought that the banners were paid advertisement spots.

As far as:

3. The Keyclone link in the header is gone -- this isn't because I'm eradicating every non-ISBoxer product or link from the site, but because a) Rob/Keyclone is no longer an active participant in the site (for some time now) and the software is no longer updated, and b) for the same reason as #1 and #2, these revenue streams are no longer necessary to support the site

That's just some BS to remove the competition out. Ive been using keyclone for years, no problems and when there is, Rob does put out an update. So to say that keyclone is not working or broken is not the case and Rob does answer emails and respond to people's questions. Don't use that as an excuse to remove the link to keyclone, that's just stupid. Shit, remove the link to the wiki because that is never updated and is completely outdated.

All I know if this site turns into isboxer promotion site, I'll just find a new boxing site to go to.

[MiRai]

Shit, remove the link to the wiki because that is never updated and is completely outdated.

The Wiki has been user-driven since day 1 of its creation. If you had felt that the Wiki was out-of-date (which
it is), you had all the power to step up and adjust its content. At this point, I would hold off as the Wiki will be
seeing a revamp soon™.

[Zzc2]

Wiki went out of date when Vyndree stopped updating it

[MiRai]

Wiki went out of date when Vyndree stopped updating it

Both myself and Khatovar have added new parts to it in the last few months. Again, if anyone felt that strongly
that the Wiki needed updating they could have stepped up and updated it at any time.

[naPS]

That's just some BS to remove the competition out. Ive been using keyclone for years, no problems and when there is, Rob does put out an update. So to say that keyclone is not working or broken is not the case and Rob does answer emails and respond to people's questions. Don't use that as an excuse to remove the link to keyclone, that's just stupid. Shit, remove the link to the wiki because that is never updated and is completely outdated.

I tried for weeks to contact Rob when my copy of Keyclone bugged out. I was unsuccessful. His support for his product is awful at best. His site is never updated, he doesn't post links for updates, and the e-mail address provided to get new keys is NEVER answered. Look at the reams of posts on here about folks trying to get in touch with Rob.

It's the absolute truth man, and imo, a completely valid reason to remove the link.

The utter lack of communication and support is what drove me kicking and screaming to ISBoxer now.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Both myself and Khatovar have added new parts to it in the last few months. Again, if anyone felt that strongly
that the Wiki needed updating they could have stepped up and updated it at any time.

This. Also, there were lots of changes that may not have been obvious, like corrected links, fixed formatting, etc. If it's a content issue you had, step up, brah.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I tried for weeks to contact Rob when my copy of Keyclone bugged out. I was unsuccessful. His support for his product is awful at best. His site is never updated, he doesn't post links for updates, and the e-mail address provided to get new keys is NEVER answered. Look at the reams of posts on here about folks trying to get in touch with Rob.

It's the absolute truth man, and imo, a completely valid reason to remove the link.

The utter lack of communication and support is what drove me kicking and screaming to ISBoxer now.

You have more than one avenue of contact. From what I've read (even recently), the phone number on the site works like a champ. If you sat around and waited for an email response, then that's on you.

[edit] And really, this isn't the thread (or the forum) to be bashing people in. /shrug If you wanna vent frustrations, I hear IRC or the OT forum is pretty good for that.

[Kedash00]

ban everyone that has a problem with therotical situations!
problem solved

[Fat Tire]

Don't be so quick to believe everything you read.

I don't know what else to say to put anyone's concerns to rest. If we can get past the sky falling, that'd be great.

Dont think anyone thinks the sky is falling, which is why its funny so many people keep bringing it up. I honestly expected more tin foil hat jabs than anything. The future possible nefarious acts are what people like me are bringing up mostly in jest.


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Zub]

Just a case of wait-and-see-and-trust-and-hope ;-)