New management discussion

[Crum1515]

This conversation needs to be taken to another media other than this thread. I use both IS and Keyclone and dont like it when daddy and daddy fight.

We are seriously off topic here.

[Lax]

If you're wanting to pay me in exchange for a link in the header, just as I had to pay Ellay and you had to pay Ellay when he was the owner, then you can talk to me about that. This isn't the right way to begin those discussions.

[thefunk]

rob thank you once again for an amazing piece of kit. Would have never made it to 5 boxing without it!!! The basic functionality still works even now.

I hope the health issues are resolving themselves.

As for links, Lax's call however an easier way to manage new starters would be a wiki type page showing all available software and hardware options with costs, features and how long to set up etc...

I'm looking forward to the same quality and open forum that we had under Ellay's management with Lax!

[keyclone]

RL taking priority is perfectly understandable. Just would have been nice to see a note saying you were going to stop adding features to Keyclone (updates were not always just bug fixes) and were going to be less active in the community. Something simple like "Hey guys, I need to focus more on RL, so I won't be around here much anymore and I am happy with where Keyclone is at, so I won't be updating that anymore." =)

i did post that events occurred in my life that required more attention. after 3 years and 4k+ posts, i figured people could get by.. otherwise they'd call (which they do).

i didn't say i was no longer updating keyclone.. i would update when needed. some updates in other products are clearly over the line, and i wouldn't put those in (one key - one action)

as for moving on to other projects... an addon is trivial and i make those nightly for myself (the new one being an auto-gear check for bgs identifying the lamers). they aren't projects. AMX was very useful so i wrapped it up and offered it to the community.

[Ashley]

It's only a fucking link jeeze.

I'm sure more people found out about both your products through word of mouth, or more importantly the "how the fuck do I multibox" thread than seeing a random link in the header they have no association with.

[keyclone]

I'm sure more people found out about both your products through word of mouth, or more importantly the "how the fuck do I multibox" thread than seeing a random link in the header they have no association with.

definitely.

removing the link is more symbolic then anything.
saying so in the same breath as promoting 'community' is just hilarious

[Ashley]

Forums and other online communities are way different than your local city hall or whatever with statues of notable people/events.

I'm sure if you stuck around a bit more, or poked your head in a few times to give us an update on Keyclone, this argument wouldn't be happening.

Now you're just making an ass out of yourself by bitching over something so trivial rather than being mature, accepting where people are coming from and their reasons like an adult.


I've even told people to switch to ISBoxer because the future of Keyclone was uncertain.

[Gurblash]

Rob we are still in IRC if you'd like to come talk about it. Hugs are free.

[Fat Tire]

Ellay made this site for boxers who loved boxing and while he fell out of love of boxing long ago he did had some mods step in and they have done a great job. My questions is now that this site is owned by a business for profit, are the mods now compensated? Just curious

I guess I am a little disappointed we never got this thread from ellay. He built a community for boxers to have a place to call home. Sure he of course didnt have to build the site in the first place and maybe feels like he doenst owe anybody anything. I dont know I just feel kinda meh about it. I hope ellay enjoys the cash lax paid for the site. I just feel like he took the money and ran, off the back of the community he greatly helped build while having someone else take any heat that might come from it.

[Vecter]

Ellay made this site for boxers who loved boxing and while he fell out of love of boxing long ago he did had some mods step in and they have done a great job. My questions is now that this site is owned by a business for profit, are the mods now compensated? Just curious

I guess I am a little disappointed we never got this thread from ellay. He built a community for boxers to have a place to call home. Sure he of course didnt have to build the site in the first place and maybe feels like he doenst owe anybody anything. I dont know I just feel kinda meh about it. I hope ellay enjoys the cash lax paid for the site.

There are very few members that have any connection to Ellay. Most have no idea who even owns this site, most just know Svpernova runs it because he is a bad ass. Time to move on and hope the community becomes a more active, fun place to be. Changes will happen, that's just the nature of the beast. Feathers will get ruffled, again just the nature of the beast.

Lax has every right to do what he wants now that he owns this site. We hope and put trust in him that he will not change what is the core of this community, the sharing of ideas and openness to discuss everything about boxing. Let's give it some time and see where the road takes us, and as a community band together to keep it going.