New management discussion

[keyclone]

A community you abandoned. People may have listened to your snide remarks a year ago, but not now.

you're call. my definition of community and yours seem to differ. mine would be more all inclusive, and less single-product-promotion. hence the reason i never made a competing forums and point to the d-b forums from the keyclone site... community building

[keyclone]

Not gonna lie Rob... you've been MIA for a LONG time. Your software is not updated (supported??).

real-life health issues take priority over monitoring a forum.

as for updating keyclone, i've used it daily for a while... no updates needed

when was the last time you got a keyboard driver update?

i'm only here now as i've received calls of people complaining .. so i logged in to see

[Lax]

Hi Rob, welcome to dual-boxing.com!

I don't know what you're QQing about, you have links to your site all over dual-boxing.com and you're not paying anything for it -- you don't even have to pay affiliate fees to Ellay anymore in exchange for your advertising. The only difference from before is that your link in the header is no longer there.

You're being a jerk over nothing.

[Fat Tire]

nvm

[Fat Tire]

Hi Rob, welcome to dual-boxing.com!

I don't know what you're QQing about, you have links to your site all over dual-boxing.com and you're not paying anything for it -- you don't even have to pay affiliate fees to Ellay anymore in exchange for your advertising. The only difference from before is that your link in the header is no longer there.

You're being a jerk over nothing.

Then why remove the link? If it doesnt hurt anything.

[Lax]

Then why remove the link?

That question was answered in the original post.

Guys, let's not pretend this is something it's not. Keyclone was paying Ellay, in exchange for links. Ellay needed/wanted that money to run the site. I don't need that money to run the site. The link in the header is no longer needed, just like the donate link and the ads.

You're not helping yourselves by acting like this over the link in the header.

[Bollwerk]

Not gonna lie Rob... you've been MIA for a LONG time. Your software is not updated (supported??).

Nothing against Rob, as I used Keyclone happily for quite a while, but this quote is correct.

If you are the author of a piece of software used heavily here and you go from being very active to only lurking and you stop updating your software with either new features or bug fixes, then you give people the impression you've abandoned your product.

I could be wrong, but I don't ever recall seeing a message from Rob saying he was going to focus on other pursuits (i.e. stop updating Keyclone). Then one day recently, out of the blue, Rob posts again that he has a new addon he was working on. That's fine, but it would have been nice to at least let people know you were moving on to another project before disappearing for however many years/months it was. After all, this community DID put money in your pocket. =)

[Bollwerk]

real-life health issues take priority over monitoring a forum.

as for updating keyclone, i've used it daily for a while... no updates needed

when was the last time you got a keyboard driver update?

i'm only here now as i've received calls of people complaining .. so i logged in to see

RL taking priority is perfectly understandable. Just would have been nice to see a note saying you were going to stop adding features to Keyclone (updates were not always just bug fixes) and were going to be less active in the community. Something simple like "Hey guys, I need to focus more on RL, so I won't be around here much anymore and I am happy with where Keyclone is at, so I won't be updating that anymore." =)

[Fat Tire]

That question was answered in the original post.

Guys, let's not pretend this is something it's not. Keyclone was paying Ellay, in exchange for links. Ellay needed/wanted that money to run the site. I don't need that money to run the site. The link in the header is no longer needed, just like the donate link and the ads.

You're not helping yourselves by acting like this over the link in the header.

Right, I understand. It sometimes tough to get people to admit to the truth when they want to be all PC about it as the way I read it in your initial post.

[keyclone]

Guys, let's not pretend this is something it's not. Keyclone was paying Ellay, in exchange for links. Ellay needed/wanted that money to run the site. I don't need that money to run the site. The link in the header is no longer needed, just like the donate link and the ads.

You're not helping yourselves by acting like this over the link in the header.

yes, i was paying Ellay for every db-keyclone... it was the only source of revenue (not counting the $40 from ads) for the site for years (until the last year?). it kept the community alive and the site funded. money from keyclone should actually fund the site for a few more years. but that's up to ellay. what he does with that is up to him.

my only balk is the term 'community' while removing a link to a competing product. that's funny.

and the reason is ... it hasn't been updated? something needs updating? should we remove the d-b banner as well? it hasn't been updated in years.

i receive numerous calls each week and i always ask if they'd like something added. some having used it for years. the answer is always 'it does everything i need'. i'd agree, as i use it myself.