4.0.6 pally pvp

[remanz]

Is anyone trying 4 pally on the ptr with the new changes?

They sound like they got some nice buffs to mulitibox with. Cleanse removeing roots and slows in 1 global and a new defensive cooldown.

Combine that with HoJ on round robin and kick/redubt(no clue on the spelling its a kick so i always call it a kick) on round robin. You could lock someone down for a while.

huh ? the buff is to PVE damage. Retribution still dead last as melee in PVP. The only thing new was sacred shield absorb a small amount of damage. Lock someONE down was never the problem for melee zerg. You got 4 other guys running free mass CC on you.

Retribution is like a sub par Rogue in skill rotation. the ramp up time for their burst is quite long, also hard to manage with boxing. If they have a unholy DK like rotation, + the defensive tools, then we are talking PVP.

[Ragewolf]

huh ? the buff is to PVE damage. Retribution still dead last as melee in PVP. The only thing new was sacred shield absorb a small amount of damage. Lock someONE down was never the problem for melee zerg. You got 4 other guys running free mass CC on you.

Retribution is like a sub par Rogue in skill rotation. the ramp up time for their burst is quite long, also hard to manage with boxing. If they have a unholy DK like rotation, + the defensive tools, then we are talking PVP.

The buff im refering to is cleanse removeing magic/roots/snares/fear again not damage.

[remanz]

that was there since cata release. I had that since day one, and I am not owning arena with it.

edit : and remove fear?magic ? it only removes snare and root.

it was a great talent, no doubt. but the damage was just not there for the rets right now. To put it in perspective, 1 frost DK 's can frontal load the damage with 12k dps. Enhance shaman can do the same. I don't have a warrior, but I heard crazi things about warrior's burst. Retribution on the other hand, it simply can't frontal load any damage. If you open wings without inquisition it is a huge loss. And once you open wings, if you don't have zealotry, another huge loss. You need to line up inquisition , zealotry , and avenging wrath to do the same frontal burst as enhance shaman. In order to line those 3 up, you need to be in melee and free from CC for like 10+ seconds.

and THAT is not happening in pvp. Thus, retribution is weak.