Cataclysm: The Ret Paladin- AKA Multi-Box Burst PVP Machines.

[remanz]

Well this team,

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/bl.../love%20rainy/

I was like "oh no~" when I faced them.

[remanz]

Regarding Hammer of Wrath hitting 50% less on PTR vs on Live.

This is actually a bug. A very non-excessive, non-stealthy bug. There was small coding change in the latest PTR build that caused Hammer of Wrath, a ranged ability, to use ranged attack power instead of melee attack power. The change itself was completely unintended and has since been corrected.

That said, we're still watching paladin damage (both sustained and burst), and if we feel that further adjustments need to be made, Hammer of Wrath may actually be a good candidate.

I hope the mastery change will bring the rets back. We desperately need that damage. 1800+ teams in arena are getting tougher. 4k Resilience shaman is just unkillable, not to mention the dps with individual / group CC just keeps peeling me off. I tried to go with more healing, more defense, ended up losing more. Going back to suicide style.

[Kromtor]

i thought resto shaman were invincible by design

[remanz]

well have to kill 1 healer to start. Otherwise, have to lucky and CC at least 1 of them. With both of them free, my target is not going down. The other healer is none other than a paladin.

have to see actually, if i waste more time on the restore shaman, might as well just attack paladin until he bubbles, and kill him after.

[Kromtor]

right now all healer pairs are seeming invincible to my pally team. i cant believe they are buffing the shit out of power word shield. it rapes teams without purges enough already.

[remanz]

The more resilience they got, the worse it becomes for us. Resilience just scales faster than damage from those PVP gears. Not to mention the 4 piece bonus are going to be nerfed by half.

Things are not looking good later into the season. 5s just have too few teams. and Most of them have figured out some basic good strategy vs melee zerg. maybe we shall be looking at other brackets

[Mosg2]

I've been thinking that War/DK/HPally as a TSG team would work great in 3's.

[Shodokan]

I've been thinking that War/DK/HPally as a TSG team would work great in 3's.

Theres too much to look out for as a warrior... maybe after the nerf to charge and shit since that 3's team is actually pretty tunnel vision. You're still going to hate mage teams =P

[Fat Tire]

Theres too much to look out for as a warrior... maybe after the nerf to charge and shit since that 3's team is actually pretty tunnel vision. You're still going to hate mage teams =P

Depends on the comp its facing. I usually tunnel mages the whole game except for a few comps. MLD I start on mage and switch druid. If its RMP I tunnel the mage the whole game unless their rogue is good at peels. If its Mage/melee/healer I will tunnel the mage the entire game. If its mage/shaman/x I will start mage till block then tunnel the shaman until kill. Best tip I could give melee cleave is shaman are easy kills.

Only team that counters tsg / melee cleave is RLS. You should never win against rls (Rogue/Lock/RSham)

With the change(patch) to mobility for warriors there is no reason to switch out of battle stance the entire game now. sucks

[Shodokan]

Depends on the comp its facing. I usually tunnel mages the whole game except for a few comps. MLD I start on mage and switch druid. If its RMP I tunnel the mage the whole game unless their rogue is good at peels. If its Mage/melee/healer I will tunnel the mage the entire game. If its mage/shaman/x I will start mage till block then tunnel the shaman until kill. Best tip I could give melee cleave is shaman are easy kills.

Only team that counters tsg / melee cleave is RLS. You should never win against rls (Rogue/Lock/RSham)

With the change(patch) to mobility for warriors there is no reason to switch out of battle stance the entire game now. sucks

Do you think that running TSG by yourself is honestly doable? Especially running the healer yourself? After the nerfs to arms? There are tons of means to actually slow your opponent etc. Getting off pummles/mind freezes successfully and not being juked is probably easier for a boxer than two players.

I think it would require just as many macros if not more to be successful than playing a single toon such as a DK... focus required for gnaws. The charge change might actually help a boxer.

To be super successful you will need things like lichborne self heal, death striking for hp... among other things.