Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
Stop turning around mate. Initial point was that alliance can cap horde base bunkers faster than horde can cap alliance base bunkers, due to map & npcs,. A simple statement in a larger picture. You isolate that out of the context (called it whining), denied it and are now trolling the discussion again. It's pretty clear for everyone who reads this thread though.
To me, it's pretty clear you don't want to hear anything but agreement with your arguments. As I have said, I don't believe ally can cap towers faster than horde can cap bunkers, and I told you why. Blizzard even moved the horde cave more south on the map because they were closer to the Ally base than Ally were to the horde base. Your claim insinuates that they either didn't measure the times from the new position, or dilberately made horde further away.

So because the initial argument was about time to cap bunkers, I'm not allowed to put forward examples of where horde have an advantage? Even if the implication of me doing so slightly implies you may be correct in your original claim (althoguh I don't believe you, I won't know for sure until I get back to my wow comp and do a few test runs myself).

I find it funny you accuse me of isolating out of context. When racing to tag a bunker/tower is quite similar. It is one single part of destroying a tower/bunker. A statement half proven by your own screenshot and post, "And when you cap these bunkers is key for the outcome, i.e. when you can start to kill the boss." Defending a bunker/tower is part of capping it, and if your team doesn't re-cap, while the other one does, well, your 1k battles in AV should give you enough experience to know it gives you a disadvantage. I'm betting that rogue who defended 4 bunkers set you back a good couple of minutes.

In my opinion, AV is pretty even. There are different advantages and disadvantages for both sides. Even a horde hating player like me can see that. I can give you a whole list of ways horde have an advantage over us if you want. And refuse to listen to any grievances you have over our map position.

And don't try to pass off a discussion as trolling in order to try and discredit me. It's a classic deflection. And hypocritical as all you have done is make unsupported claims in this thread (show me proof ally is closer before you expect e to believe it), why can't I call that trolling?