I realy do envy horde boxers

[Ridere]

Exactly. At least on my BG, you don't wanna BG as horde. The alliance wins a lot more than they lose, and that gets old after a while, OP racials or not.

Wow, that's really too bad.

Join the battle group The Scryers is in. I just armoried Arlassa after my recent 6 pvp mount farming session, and here are the results

Battleground (Won/Played)

AV: 48/105
AB: 30/93
WSG: 26/102

If you haven't pvped in awhile, you may want to try again. With faction changes, I think a lot of the more competitive BGers jumped ship from Alliance to Horde.

I used to agree with you all that AV was basically an Alliance win. pretty surprised that I've actually lost more than I've won. 95% of all that data listed below was from the last few weeks. Only BGs I did on Arlassa before were holiday achievement related. So maybe 1-5 games at most.

So yah. It's good to be horde on my battlegroup.

[Stealthy]

What Eloxy said.

What's the most popular class in PvP? Ret. Paladins. What's the only race/class horde get to choose for this? Belf Paladin (and soon to be Tauren? wtf?).

So you've got a tanky melee class with an aoe silence / stun. And they do chain them.

PvP is PvP. God mode is not PvP.

Actually this is NOT true. Ret Paladins only make up about 1.2% of arena players atm. The nost popular class for PvP are Disc Priests, followed by Holy Paladins:

http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/player

Cheers,
S.

[David]

Actually this is NOT true. Ret Paladins only make up about 1.2% of arena players atm. The nost popular class for PvP are Disc Priests, followed by Holy Paladins:

They do shitloads of damage but from what I`ve heard they don`t fit in any sort of setup. On the otherhand, a boxed group of them does

[Gares]

Its hard to find a setup that works well with a solo Ret paladin. I play Rogue/Ret/Priest in 3's and it use to be a rockin setup but when Ret got its damage nerfed the comp became subpar.

We pretty much get wrecked by any good wizard cleave team and teams with mages are almost a guaranteed loss for us as well if the mage is decent.

For 5's they really don't fit in anywhere unless your running triple melee cleave which most people don't

[Tasty]

Yes, Every man for himself and perception are okay.

What do you mean okay? I was ecstatic when my human team got every man for himself. It freed up a trinket slot

[Ridere]

What do you mean okay? I was ecstatic when my human team got every man for himself. It freed up a trinket slot

You picked out a single sentance to try and discount my entire point. haha. I was happy for that racial, too, even though I've not had to use it much at al in PvP, but my Alliance = "Oh crap" racials vs Horde = "Rawr Offense" stance still applies.

Best Defense is a good Offense and all that.

It's all in good fun, since they're going to go out the window soon. It's just a pet peeve of mine in WoW when people downplay obviously imbalanced aspects. It's like just man up to it.

[Fursphere]

Actually this is NOT true. Ret Paladins only make up about 1.2% of arena players atm. The nost popular class for PvP are Disc Priests, followed by Holy Paladins:

http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/player

Cheers,
S.

Oh right. My bad.

Arena = PvP

BGs = somethingelseapparently

[Whowantstoknow]

I wouldnt change faction or reroll just for racials though as they are due for rebalancing in Cata.

[Kromtor]

Oh right. My bad.

Arena = PvP

BGs = somethingelseapparently

pretty much. BG's are an afk'er/botter/tv watcher paradise. and if you see a pally topping damage more than half the time he's prot.
% spec participation and perceived imbalances in BG's are meaningless.

[Multibocks]

Why prot? What ability do they have that does massive damage?