I realy do envy horde boxers

[Alemi]

Oh noes a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown. Warstomp even has a cast time. Seems like you are overreacting to me.

Correction.

"a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown and subject to diminishing return"

At most, you'll get a 3.5 second silence, if perfectly chained.

[Ridere]

Correction.

"a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown and subject to diminishing return"

At most, you'll get a 3.5 second silence, if perfectly chained.

Have to say I agree with the OP. I'm not saying the move is godmode, or anything. But when compared to the alliance ones...

Yes, Every man for himself and perception are okay. Maybe stoneskin situationally and such. But crux of the deal is Alliance has "Oh crap" macros, and horde get "Rawr" macros. And it's evidenced in the population balances of those who actually pay attention to things like racials and not just looks, or being "the good guys"

Doesn't bug me too much, however, as I don't worry too much about that stuff, and if anything, I can brag about playing in the "harder" of the two choices. haha. And maybe things will get balanced out with racials in Cata, and people will faction switch back from horde to alliance.

But no one can really deny that people have migrated to horde because of the better players, and the better players originally migrated over because of the racials.

I only get annoyed people people try to downplay the racials They're OP'd for PvP, and we all know it. Who cares, really, but just don't downplay it, or act like they're not. haha.

[Lyonheart]

I have been tossing and turning about switching my team to horde. I think I will am going to do it. Its true in BGs and WG, they chain those abilities on my team a lot. They always have tenacity, so my magmas rarely bail me out while I sit there stunned and silenced. I try and make sure to kill any Cows or BEs from afar if and when I can lol.

But its not just the racials for me. The horde on both servers I have been on just seem better. They work well together in BGs more often than not. When alliance wins it by the skin of our teeth in a race now days. We used to Win 90%. I think the better alliance players went horde over the last few months ( or however long the change has been in ) Because we never win AV now unless me and my boxer guildie kill the boss and all 4 tower guards at once lol.

And i have been wanting to be horde since I started playing WoW, i went Alliance to be with my guild from DAoC. I think its time for the switch.

[Kromtor]

The grass is always greener. You'll soon be out 100 bucks and bitching about alliance =)

[heyaz]

we play like 80% horde in arena....

[Alemi]

The grass is always greener. You'll soon be out 100 bucks and bitching about alliance =)

QFT. People blame the racials when it's usually the AOE that kills me. As someone who rerolled alliance after playing horde for 2+ years, anything that kills me in 4-5 seconds, would kill me all the same regardless of if I were stunned or silenced.

IMHO Blood Fury is far more OP than anything else listed here. Torrent and stomp are highly effective against multiboxers, but so is Blizzard, Bladestorm, Rain of Fire, Hurricane, Divine Storm, Blood Boil, etc.

[Clovis]

If it wasn't $140 ($35x4) I would do it. Right now I know my wife would throw a fit, she already got pissed at the purchase of a $70 gaming mouse =P

When faction changes were announced I considered it just to not have to fight Belfs and tauren in BGs, I didn't even think about the horde SP racial at the time.

But yeah, a two min cool down basically means its up every attack where as gift of naaru is a "oh, my healer is being focused" - I might use it twice per battleground and thats only IF I have one of my regular healers with me (I have my naaru target them and cast) -- where as an offensive racial is used every chance you have.

Gift of Naaru is only good really when you have 4 of them going but I would rather have an extra SP trinket.

IMO in arenas they should just disable racials but then they'd lose the money for faction changes =P

[Fat Tire]

IMO in arenas they should just disable racials but then they'd lose the money for faction changes =P

truer words have never been spoken.

[Mosg2]

Alliance might have a harder time with Horde racials but ffs, grinding honor Alliance side is about three times as fast as it is Horde for me. YMMV.

[BobGnarly]

Alliance might have a harder time with Horde racials but ffs, grinding honor Alliance side is about three times as fast as it is Horde for me. YMMV.

Exactly. At least on my BG, you don't wanna BG as horde. The alliance wins a lot more than they lose, and that gets old after a while, OP racials or not.