I realy do envy horde boxers

[Smoooth]

Oh noes a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown. Warstomp even has a cast time. Seems like you are overreacting to me.

[Alemi]

Oh noes a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown. Warstomp even has a cast time. Seems like you are overreacting to me.

Correction.

"a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown and subject to diminishing return"

At most, you'll get a 3.5 second silence, if perfectly chained.

[Ridere]

Correction.

"a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown and subject to diminishing return"

At most, you'll get a 3.5 second silence, if perfectly chained.

Have to say I agree with the OP. I'm not saying the move is godmode, or anything. But when compared to the alliance ones...

Yes, Every man for himself and perception are okay. Maybe stoneskin situationally and such. But crux of the deal is Alliance has "Oh crap" macros, and horde get "Rawr" macros. And it's evidenced in the population balances of those who actually pay attention to things like racials and not just looks, or being "the good guys"

Doesn't bug me too much, however, as I don't worry too much about that stuff, and if anything, I can brag about playing in the "harder" of the two choices. haha. And maybe things will get balanced out with racials in Cata, and people will faction switch back from horde to alliance.

But no one can really deny that people have migrated to horde because of the better players, and the better players originally migrated over because of the racials.

I only get annoyed people people try to downplay the racials They're OP'd for PvP, and we all know it. Who cares, really, but just don't downplay it, or act like they're not. haha.

[Lyonheart]

I have been tossing and turning about switching my team to horde. I think I will am going to do it. Its true in BGs and WG, they chain those abilities on my team a lot. They always have tenacity, so my magmas rarely bail me out while I sit there stunned and silenced. I try and make sure to kill any Cows or BEs from afar if and when I can lol.

But its not just the racials for me. The horde on both servers I have been on just seem better. They work well together in BGs more often than not. When alliance wins it by the skin of our teeth in a race now days. We used to Win 90%. I think the better alliance players went horde over the last few months ( or however long the change has been in ) Because we never win AV now unless me and my boxer guildie kill the boss and all 4 tower guards at once lol.

And i have been wanting to be horde since I started playing WoW, i went Alliance to be with my guild from DAoC. I think its time for the switch.

[Tasty]

Yes, Every man for himself and perception are okay.

What do you mean okay? I was ecstatic when my human team got every man for himself. It freed up a trinket slot

[Ridere]

What do you mean okay? I was ecstatic when my human team got every man for himself. It freed up a trinket slot

You picked out a single sentance to try and discount my entire point. haha. I was happy for that racial, too, even though I've not had to use it much at al in PvP, but my Alliance = "Oh crap" racials vs Horde = "Rawr Offense" stance still applies.

Best Defense is a good Offense and all that.

It's all in good fun, since they're going to go out the window soon. It's just a pet peeve of mine in WoW when people downplay obviously imbalanced aspects. It's like just man up to it.

[drevil]

Oh noes a 2 second stun/silence that has a 8 yard range and a 2 minute cooldown. Warstomp even has a cast time. Seems like you are overreacting to me.

just take a look at the 100 top 5v5 teams... it's 75% horde

http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/5/all/all/all/all/


i lost so many games because a BE casting silence right into my heal,
while 5 enemies aoeing my group.

[Eloxy]

just take a look at the 100 top 5v5 teams... it's 75% horde

http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/5/all/all/all/all/


i lost so many games because a BE casting silence right into my heal,
while 5 enemies aoeing my group.

this

[shaeman]

i lost so many games because a BE casting silence right into my heal,
while 5 enemies aoeing my group.

Have you never lost due to a well timed kick, blind, ghoul stun, repentance, hammer, silence,death coil, shadowfury, spell lock, fear, psychic scream, howl of terror, silencing shot, concussion, sheep, wind shear etc, etc, etc?

75% of the top 100 arena is horde - That doesn't prove that a blood elf silence and warstomp are the difference, there are any number of factors (or a combination) that could affect it.

I think the core problem with this perceived overpoweredness is that the majority of the boxers are running shaman teams - all standing right on top of each other, unable to perform independantly and take avoiding measures (like standing apart, moving in different directions etc).

Any good arena team will have a raft of interrupts, crowd control coordinated, the Belf silence and Tauren stomp will just be one of them.

[drevil]

75% of the top 100 arena is horde - That doesn't prove that a blood elf silence and warstomp are the difference, there are any number of factors (or a combination) that could affect it.
I think the core problem with this perceived overpoweredness is that the majority of the boxers are running shaman teams - all standing right on top of each other, unable to perform independantly and take avoiding measures (like standing apart, moving in different directions etc).
Any good arena team will have a raft of interrupts, crowd control coordinated, the Belf silence and Tauren stomp will just be one of them.

hmm, i think you didn't get my point.
it's not about the main problem of boxers after the 3.0 patch (more aoe+cc),
i'm saying these two horde racials are a big pvp advantage.

my realmpool 5v5 ranking looks like this: one ally in the top 25.

just made 12 games .. lost all against horde, won all against ally... it's so annoying.