Thats not that much regarding the amount of people online.
Dungeons x7 and the 10% of the loot - repaircosts (everybody) our guild is around +/- 2000 each week.
Do they loot ?
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Thats not that much regarding the amount of people online.
Dungeons x7 and the 10% of the loot - repaircosts (everybody) our guild is around +/- 2000 each week.
Do they loot ?
you can do raids with a group of level 80's/70 if you still got a set of 80's as long as there level 80 you can get the dungon thing. at the end of WOTLK i could easy 5 man os with the ads down and to be fair the 500g be great just all my 80's are like 82 to and it don't work. might even level a group to 80 and stop there xp. for this as the guild am in nerver do the raid as well
I'm not so sure about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
If all you're offering is to cover repair costs, you might be able to support the occasional PUG raid, where people are expected to bring their own buffs and there aren't such rigid compliance checks. But I doubt that a steady group will form that will tackle current content with any regularity or success. In the event that it does, it probably wouldn't be long before they went somewhere else.
I may be wrong, but I can't imagine a situation where a solid raid group would form and stay together under those circumstances.
What else would they expect, they get all the lootz of course, and can use the extra to sell to pay for flasks and what not.
What guild leaders pay people to raid?
Generally you don't pay them anything.. They raid to have fun.
Greetings,
I just wanted to say that I recently bought a lvl 14 guild that was close to lvl 15. I paid 14k,which was way less than I thought the guild was worth. It has 5 tabs, and it had 1k in the guild bank, so all in all I think I got a deal.
The guild s pretty much dead though. It had over 100 members. I kicked about 30 that had not been on in forever. Only about 10 players actively log in, and no one complained that the GM changed hands. Since buying the guild my chars have probably done about 5mil guild xp, and it was only a little over a week ago that I bought.
I don't have a full 5 man multibox team yet, I am still leveling up my team.
I was curious, should I get more people, or just level it up myself? I figure once I get 2-3 teams at lvl 80 with my RAF, I should be able to at least get 5 levels in the guild by doing 80-85 questing with those teams.
Also props to the OP for being so damn rich. I am pretty recently returned to the game and feel I can start raking in the cash once I have a good 5 man multi going :)
I gave up on leveling my guild alone with my boxing teams at level 11 and started inviting people. Guild is level 19 now and still growing and going. Some things like bank tab #8 (have each possible race and class combination leveled to 85) are alot easier to achive with more members. On top of that its somewhat relaxing not having to go for the guildxp cap each day.
I just joined a guild instead of trying to level my personal tag. No regrets (top horde progression on the server with kickass people.)Quote:
Originally Posted by RSM72
This is really new for me but we are just starting to get a core group of raiders. The raid leader has lots of boss kills and we (well not me but my guild) do raids but with only about half guild members so they aren't guild raids yet.
But all new people coming into the guild want to raid and aparently the guild was a known raiding guild back in wothlk and sooner and some people remember that, although it does seem that current people are all farmers.
We are up to 480 level 85's (its went up since I took over my spamming trade for new members works) we lose 2-3 a day but also gain 2-3 a day plus we get those in the guild who level up and hit 85, they ususaly stay as they are getting guild rep while leveling, but they don't seem to want to raid.
I am sure we will be the first guild on the server with 500 level 85 members. I think that is something in itself. But again we never have more then 35-40 total online at any one time, still it gets better daily and having 20-30 level 85s online each night is nice and the guild chat isnt completly dead like it was. I was able to talk with 2 people who left, one left cause his friend invited him into his guild but was happy with my guild and another left cause "to many kids" and took his 5 alts with him .... well its expected that there will be turnover in a guild this size.
Iv put like 3K into the guild bank for repairs this month, as monies is coming in from dungeon runs and looting; so even with 30g a day plus for repairs for all the level 85s there is some funds in the bank.
Ya I was in a guild briefly in EQ (Hate) but never really did well so being able to run a guild is a step up for me for sure.
And I can see where I will be able to do raids (Im the guy the appoints the raid leaders so I guess Ill be invited lol) and heroics with my guys when they hit 85. Though not sure if I can box or not but I can gear my tank for sure.
A lot of people don't raid cause they say they can get good enough items without raiding, I guess its not like EQ at all where there is a huge difference between raiders and non raiders gear wise, but I knew that already.
Woot just logged in to find we did our first Guild Raid Killz. The first two boss in BoT (normaL) down!
Anyone know of a easy way to see who in the guild has high guild rep. Im not finding addons to show that.
"To win at PvP you have to win at PvE" SDW 2011.
Check out the armory for your guild.
Go to roster and click the "achievement points" drop down on the top right corner and set it to Guild Activity.
While this will not show you their faction (you have to check each individual for that) you can see who has contributed the most Points to the guild by looking under the "lifetime" column.
I just bought yet another guild, for 90K.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/ne...ort=rank&dir=a
This one has a lot of higher ilevel members in it. I guess they do hard mode heriocs and pvp as they havn't got much for raid achivments but they have a lot of guys with high ilevel gear.
Its like 500 members with like 300 level 85's, I think they have membership requiremnts unlike the other which anyone could join.
I have no idea what I am going to do with this guild but 90K is nothing to me .... The price was so resonable that I just couldn't walk away, I wasnt even looking to buy.
Between the two guilds I have like 800 level 85's "under" me .....
The negotations on this one was way harder, he never heard of me so he wanted me to pay in advance, I never heard of him so I didnt want to pay in advance, I paid him 1/2 up front and the rest after he made me GM.
They only have 5 tabs in bank lol ... But the bank was full of items.
Now do I ask members from one guild to help the other? Do I schdual raids with both for the same times? Maybe the 2nd guild no one raids on purpose they are pvping.
In the first guild you obtained, you were thrown into the position of GM without having been in any real
guild prior to that for any real length of time and you have no idea what this game expects from people end
game. You asked for advice and people gave it. However, a position of leadership is not something you can
just jump into after reading an 8 page instruction booklet on it and be "good to go".
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SH20_OU01_.jpg
(Perhaps I was wrong)
Now, you've acquired yet another guild and are in over your head since the people in this new guild
actually do things at level 85. I think your best bet might be to create some sort of guild council in order to
hold things together because if I was in a guild where the GM sold the rest of us to some random person
who didn't know anything about end game (and now I'm expected to listen to this guy?) ... I would just go
find another guild.
Ya on the 2nd guild I dont really plan to do much, they seem to be doing fine without my input. Iv kept everything the same except I took away everyones ability to kick others.
Why would I give advise on something I don't know about? Im getting an idea of the raid progession though but as to the actual battles I just defer to the "raid leader". In the first guild we have like 13 or 15 people who can lead raids I just tell people go talk to them if someone has a progression question.
Basically in the first guild I just recruit and offer gold to anyone who does a FL raid (10K for our first one). We had 440 level 85 when I took over the first guild and there are 487 as of today. A bunch quit cause I wouldnt kick some guy telling everyone how bad they play in chat (he made a big deal about a frost DK who wanted to dual weild instead of 2H as tank), then he quits and turns out he is in the new guild lol, but he not say much in the new guild chat though.
I only kick people if they are inactive, if people are playing who cares what they do or say.
Im not really a "active" GM, I dont raid (no level 85 toons), I just make sure everything is going ok. Pay for the Caulderons and keep some gold in the bank for repairs (1K a week or so).
Ya the 2nd guild seems hard core players whereas the first is casuals. And yet neither seem to raid FL lol ...
There seems no simple way to merge the two guilds as they are dissimilar.
Now thats not to say I am never going to know raiding but it takes a lot of time, as you know, reading EJ to max everything and watiching videos of fight stratagies and reading about the fights. I have to get all my guys to 85 before I even attempt that. The good thing about boxing a lot of characters is that I dont have to be doing 100percent with each; even if I am doing 70 percent with each I am still doiing great.
Its not I am completely unknowledgable:
http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum...ad.php?t=16755
Never stopped you in the past, but maybe you've turned over a new leafQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Definitely. no more 'biggest mass boxer' (too hard)...Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGBrown
'Biggest Guild master' instead! Woohoo 800 under me ;-)
btw i'm coining the terms Mass Master and Guild Masster
Sam, get to level 85 already with all your toons.
Or is this expansion going to end and you'll barely be level 85. Just like last expansion.
What is the point of having 36 accounts that are not even close to max level?
I say this because I love you and want to see Level 85 pwnage videos :)
Ya the first guild was for the goal of getting my guys to 85, with level 25 perks thats gonna help a lot.
Ill be the 2nd biggest mass boxer .... well I kinda am but my guys aren't high enough to really count.
One day, ... when blizzard decides to stop releasing new expansions, sam d will catch up with the player base at the max level cap.
You're like those rich guys that keep buying expensive cars. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Sam, how did you make all this gold without lvl 85s?
Have you been sitting on the AH for months?
Was there a point in there somewhere? Maybe I'm just tired and not seeing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonuss
Well, that would explain why he isn't 85 yet on any of his toons.Quote:
Originally Posted by dancook
Ya just making truegold on 8 guys a night and darkmoon cards with 2 millers (1-2 hours a night).
My seller has 4.4 Million in sales on him (course I had to buy like 3 million of herbs and whatnot).
Looks like we found something for people to spend gold on heh ....
Trolololol?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
We being the community of 2009?
Nope, just a whimsical observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz
We being those of us who have so much gold that we lament "There is nothing worthwhile to spend my gold on!".
Just start buying up guilds.
We just got our website (some other guy doing all the layout and stuffs, cost me 8.99 a month seems resonable I guess)
http://sponsoredbywotlk.guildomatic.com/
Don't mistake holding the GM rank in game with being the GM of the guild. People won't follow you because of the rank you bought, and they will not do something just because you asked them to for free guild repairs.
If you truely want to lead a progression raiding guild you cannot really go about it the way you have.
A guild is like a "brand" or a sports team.
By buying the guild you have bypassed some people that felt that they (or one of their peers) should have been promoted to GM based on dedication to the guild or performance in the past. This means many of the players most loyal to the team in the past will not be loyal to the new incarnarnation of the guild. Members of the guilds previous raid teams are mot likely among these players, and they have most likely already left
By isolating the guild bank for your personal use you have communicatd to the guild that your personal needs are more important to you than the logistical needs of the guild. Regardless of how useful you may feel a guild bank is or is not to a raid team, the message you sent is strong and clear.
By proposing to rename the guild after yourself you have reinforced the message above - but also clearly indicatedt that the brand of the guild and the history of the guild are not important to you.
You will not find a strong raid leader willing to build a progression raid group in your honor. I commend you for playing the game how you want to play it and enjoying yourself; but don't make the mistake of thinking that you hold any claim on the members of the guilds you have bought. Membership loyalty has to be earned.
Interesting first post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masochisto
I think that anyone who has interacted with SamD in the past has gotten to the point of just :rolleyes: at this point, mainly because SamD is mostly resistant to any suggestions made by others. Which also begs the question of why he asks for advice to begin with when he ignores most of it.
That said, I agree that your points are valid with respect to renaming the guild and also by isolating the guild bank.
Thanks, I am actually a really old member that hasn't be active on the forum in years nad forgot his account info :-). I first joined and posted way back when Xzin had his great post on his hardward boxing setup. My account seemed to have been lost or closed when the forum move occurred last year, and I've just been too lazy since...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gomotron
I'm actually familiar with Sam from his EQ boxing days, and his initial posts on this forum also. This particular post just struck a nerve enough that I registered a new account to respond :-)
Welcome back!Quote:
Originally Posted by Masochisto
All that is true enough, but the simple problem is that people in this guild dont seem to want to raid. I'v even offered 2K for each person who does our first successful FL boss kill.
Its not me or not me, cause those who didn't care for me leading the guild have long since quit. Keep in mind there never was a "raiding core" in the guild it was all a bunch of farmers and the prior GM just used the guild to get as much gold out of it that he could (he raided in another guild....). He also didnt allow guild bank access. Obviously I am concerned about helping the guild that will have my name on it but ya I need the bank for my own purposes. I really dont see what is missing by not having the bank given I pay for the calderons of battle by giving the materials to the alch who can make them. And I pay for the repairs.
New people have come in and they are hot to raid when they join but then raids and schdualed and few show up. Some say they dont have enough ilevel to raid FL, others say no time that day due to rl commitments, others are doing some other things. No one in the guild seems to have a clear idea of why we dont seem to be able to get enough online at one time to raid. Although some have said not having any requirments makes it to casual for hard core raiders.
The simple fact is that all the old people in the guild are just not raiders or not interested in raiding. The new people I bring in though are up for raiding, in fact a 381 warrior just joined who is 7/7 in FL normal. So we will See, clearly it takes time to build up a 10 man core who shows up every night.
I am really miffed that we got up to 492 level 85's then fell back to 485 again .... I want to make a big annoucement about being first guild with 500 level 85's.
Its ok though although not moving forward as fast as anyone would like the new members replace the old members so there isnt any loss. We have vent, and a website, so things are better then they were under the old leader.
The other guild (reality) the PvP guild just runs itself, I pop in say hi, no one responds and I log out. The already have their 2x and 3x teams and there is really nothing for me to do. They have bank access and there is a bunch of stuff there but I just let it sit.
I'll assume you're talking about your own realm but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
...Ruinous on Kil'Jaeden has over 900 level 85's, and that's just one of their guilds. They have at least 3
guilds total in a joint alliance across the realm with many more level 85's at their disposal.
So how exactly would you prove that you'd be the first guild with 500 level 85? And how is that even remotely important if that guild cant even kill one raid boss?
Nevermind, i remember now, quantity vs quality ;-)
The more I read your posts the more i wonder what you suffered in your life to develop such a misplaced superiority complex. What are you really trying to prove Mr Ferris? :-)
2000g is nothing and wouldn't even remotely be worth my time as a tradeoff for mucking through what is nothing more than a PuG raid. Except when you PuG and the group you're with blows, you can leave and never have to deal with them again. In this case, if it blows, they still gotta deal with these same people because they're in your guild.
People come into a guild as a raider with the expectation to raid, not to fumble through the masses of BS to do all the work setting up a raid force. I can't blame them.
I'd suggest ignoring raiding until you can be personally involved. Once you can be involved you can take ownership of it and do what is necessary to attract raiders. It all comes down to the raid leader; and raid leading takes much more than having cleared all the fights. You really need someone that is great at playing their class and spec, great at communication, and great at handling people. These players are particularly rare.
I've personally funded 3 epic flying toons just from the extra gold thats put into GB from looting.
Not sure what that has to do with the raiding part... but as part as leading... its nice ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
Rats .... Oh well ....
Sam, I'm not trying to be an arse, but if you really pride yourself on being first in WoW in ANYTHING, you're going to have to buckle down, pick your target, and devote full time 24/7 to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
As it is, you are a little behind time-wise from folks who have been playing this game for a long while before you started. That means that you are going to have to put in an insane amount of effort to be first at anything. From what I've seen thus far from you, you have unbridled enthusiasm but are a little too ADD to actually have a worldwide first in anything.
If you really want to do it, you have to pick your goal and then knuckle down and get it done. And that goes for developing a group of core raiders for your guild as well.
Oh yeah, well I have a guild with 5 players, all mine! MUAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Maybe you're the FIRST GUILD WITH 100% level 85! WooHooQuote:
Originally Posted by drarkan