Running a Large Guild

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I recently took over a 1000 man level 25 guild on Ner'zhul (as you can see accumulating a ton of gold is yet another way to advance).

Sponsored By WOTLK (I'm the GM and been so for a few days).

Armory is down so I can't give a link.

Of course I have no idea how to run a guild with other people in it. I did it mainly so I would have all guild perks for my characters (see how fast I will level when I get RAF and have these guild perks).

Anyway the guild was not very active with raids being pugs and I think the reason it always has 1000 members is that anyone can invite anyone lol ... but there does seem to be some (a lot?) of solid level 85 players and I have made 3 of them raid leaders. Of course a lot might quit when they see the change in leadership but as the prior GM logged on once a month or so dosn't seem he really bonded with the membership. Im not planing to raid myself but as the guild with be "The DeathWalker Empire" I don't plan on sitting around like a potted plant eaither. I never heard of a guild that didnt schdual raids.

So what kind of addons should I use for DKP or whatever system is in vogue now and setting raid times and organizing all that and some kind of software or addon to have a forum or some way to communicate with members that isnt the MOTD?

EGPG seems popular for the DKP system; and

http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_website_utilities

has a long list of website stuffs. I don't want to mix my personal web site with the guild site so I'll host it somewhere else. Anyone have experience with these guild website ultities?

Anyway what are people here using in their guilds or guilds they are in?

[zenga]

You should ask your members to post pictures of themselves in leather pants, and make everyone that does an officer.

[Tonuss]

Of course I have no idea how to run a guild with other people in it. I did it mainly so I would have all guild perks for my characters (see how fast I will level when I get RAF and have these guild perks).

Well, what do you want out of the guild aside from the leveling perks? Let the guild know and be ready for the potential hassles that come with it. I would say that if all you want is the perks, let everyone know that as far as you are concerned, it is a social/leveling guild. If they want to organize raids or groups, that's great, but let them know that you're not going to deal with drama or get involved in disputes. Otherwise you might find yourself spending a heck of a lot of time dealing with interpersonal gripes instead of actually playing the game.

Most guilds of that size are the type that you described, where they'll invite anyone and everyone. Some of those guilds can support a raiding team or two, but in general they tend to be a huge hassle if you try to create any sort of organization or structure.

[Oatboat]

I'd just kick everyone out. that way you just dont have to worry about it and you have a level 25 guild with vault

[Starbuck_Jones]

A guild like that is just a leveling farm, leave it as it is and people will continue to invite new toons and alts to benefit from all the perks and they will leave to find a better guild. If you are trying to change things, then reward the 85's who are on with promotions, gold, and bank access. Guilds like this run themselves. If there are 10 people who want to raid, they will set it up themselves.

[Apps]

I'd just kick everyone out. that way you just dont have to worry about it and you have a level 25 guild with vault

A guild like that is just a leveling farm, leave it as it is and people will continue to invite new toons and alts to benefit from all the perks and they will leave to find a better guild. If you are trying to change things, then reward the 85's who are on with promotions, gold, and bank access. Guilds like this run themselves. If there are 10 people who want to raid, they will set it up themselves.

This and or this...

Who cares!? Its a video game. You dont owe these people jack. They arent paying your monthly subs. Rule how you see fit. Boot em all, or leave it alone is my suggestion. If you "try" to be a GM of established bullshit and drama, then thats all you'll get... BS and drama.
Been there, done that.

[ebony]

A guild like that is just a leveling farm, leave it as it is and people will continue to invite new toons and alts to benefit from all the perks and they will leave to find a better guild. If you are trying to change things, then reward the 85's who are on with promotions, gold, and bank access. Guilds like this run themselves. If there are 10 people who want to raid, they will set it up themselves.

do this keep all the gold they give you for peeks players will be in a 25 guild for it and they will give u exta 10% 1000g+ a week going on how many players are looting. if they QQ saying i put x money in then so them the door a lot will not care for the peeks kick loads of guilds like this and they use the officer chat as the real guild chat and just use the guild as a levelling farm

[Sam DeathWalker]

The Screen Shots help clarify the issue so they can track down the information in their logs faster. Obviously if you can save them some time it is to your advantage. Plus you yourself might forget some details (like spelling the name of all these guys that have umlaut character codes in their names) before you place your ticket.

Of course if the logs show that there is some discrepency in the Screen Shots they will use their logs.

I sent them Screen Shots. Why would you be foolish enough to have no evidence at all to support your position? But of course we all know that SS can be faked easy.

Over 300 level 85's and still not a single raid (although we seem to do the 7 dungeons ok).

[Zub]

The Screen Shots help clarify the issue so they can track down the information in their logs faster. Obviously if you can save them some time it is to your advantage. Plus you yourself might forget some details (like spelling the name of all these guys that have umlaut character codes in their names) before you place your ticket.

Of course if the logs show that there is some discrepency in the Screen Shots they will use their logs.

I sent them Screen Shots. Why would you be foolish enough to have no evidence at all to support your position? But of course we all know that SS can be faked easy.

Over 300 level 85's and still not a single raid (although we seem to do the 7 dungeons ok).

just curious, out of the 1000 in guild, how many have logged, say, in the last 7 days?
that amount of people must generate a nice cash flow with the 10% guild perk

[Sam DeathWalker]

There is between 30-40 every time I log in during prime time, ya with the 250 gold per dungon and the 10percent the bank is plus 1600 after a week including all the repairs monies.