worst dealing with a guild ever?

[Tehtsuo]

I joined my last raiding guild during their time of need for holy paladins. They had two at the time that would show up to around 1 out of 5 raids per week, which wasn't allowing for progression. I was beyond crappy geared at the time that I joined up, but they wanted me as I was mature and competent: I was in 95% auctionhouse greens the day I was invited to the guild and healed through every boss in SSC but vashj. Needless to say, my output was sub-par, but I didn't die or wipe the raid so I got to stay.

Through the course of the next two months, I improved my gear by leaps and bounds. The guild operated on a loot council system, so the ones who needed the gear the most got it. As I was in greens (Although to be fair I was running instances as fast as my butt could, trying to make up the gap with blue drops) I got lots of loot. I was the first to get 4 pieces of paladin t5, and the first in the guild to get a helmet token drop from Vashj on our first kill. This was before they nerfed the casting speed buff on the 4 piece bonus, so paladins were #1 in line for helmet drops.

After the month it took us to get Vashj and Kaelthas down, we finally got our foot in the BT/Hyjal door, and promptly blasted through the first few bosses in those instances. As most paladins do, I tried to do my best, but found that my performance on the various meters and log parsing tools the guild used was going down fast compared with other healing classes. Especially those damn resto shamans. During BT raids, I started to have trouble even looking busy. I'd throw out flash of light to people that where at 100% health all day long. Our raid leader singled me out (among the other paladins who were having the same kind of problem) and started to become abusive. I was urged by other officers to let it slide off my back, but the insults and accusations continued to fly. I was told on many occasions that I was being pulled along by the guild and afking through raids. My near 100% attendance, my effort put into farming mats and always being at the summoning stone on time instead of asking for summons, the fact that I'd warn my class leader if I couldn't attend a raid (something most other raiders wouldn't bother to do) was completely forgotten. I pressed on, deciding that I could live with one person in the guild being hateful, and I wanted to see the rest of the end-game instances.

It was around the beginning of Hyjal, and before we started getting into BT, when one of the paladins who had poor attendance started to show up again. Apparently he had finished a hard semester at school and was able to get back into the game. I had assumed that my place in the guild wasn't in jeopardy from him, as he had dropped out of the raiding roster. I was wrong. As my raid leader had a vendetta against me (which to this day I have not figured out) I started to have to ask for invites to raids. I heard "We're full on healers" a few times, and was forced to point out "That guy's in the instance with you, and I was on time not late. Why is he in there?" I was allowed in to replace someone, although it was usually someone else that was asked to leave, not him. We started getting t6 bosses down, and as expected, loot fell everywhere but to me. I didn't let that bother me, because I reminded myself that the same system that got me so much loot before would mean others would get upgrades as they needed it more. However, once that paladin overtook me in gear level, the loot did not start falling back to me. It continued to pile up on him, even gear that was a far greater upgrade for me than for him. That was the point where I left the server. There wasn't much point guild-hopping, I was at the top and didn't feel like starting over again.

Highly successful? Yes. Nice? By no means. Welcome to the World of Raiding, expect no favors.

[Boylston]

As a guildmaster, I tried always to recruit people who fit with the rest of the group. That usually meant people in their late 20s to mid-30s who had careers and possibly kids. Folks in those stages of life are *generally* more understanding that WoW is a hobby for their guildmates, not a lifestyle. We've paused raids so that people could change diapers, and I've politely asked folks to leave if they were starting to take things too seriously or became obviously dissatisfied.

We'll never be a hardcore progression guild, but I think our members are happier with their WoW experience than a lot of folks in T6.

[badashh]

I nominate Vyndree and her speccing/respeccing Shaman. I can't find the thread now.

[Jaws5]

Threads like these make me miss my days in the military... have a problem like that with someone holding a grudge? Take the guy out back and "have a smoke" (proceed to beat the shit out of each other until the problem gets sorta out).

If only you could do that IRL to asshole guildies.

Yes Fur those where the good old days. On a pve server I just take a toon and kill the guild leader over and over again. Well it makes me feel better anyway.
You see he would run a pre form ab, wsg and I would play a HWL hunter and killl him the whole match. and best part was he knew it was me

[Eteocles]

Kane & Warhound from Dark Council. Kane, GL and in T6+ gear, was retarded and did less dps than DA's mages in under-t5 gear. Warhound, 2nd in command, throws experience out the window, has no fuckin clue about his own class let alone others'(He was confused when someone told him Heroic Strike cost 15rage and thought I actually chose to take Control of Nature in my talents cuz I could + disregarded all progression possibilities in my tree) and basically did whatever he could to better himself; thus where I come in. He wants Improved Faerie Fire so he can change his gear around for less hit; DC's raids are caster-heavy. I'd lose more DPS by myself than he AND the rogues/hunters would gain COMBINED. They didn't care. After 2 5+page-long argument threads, mostly in my favor logic-wise, and despite placing 7thish in their DPS meters despite my, as Warhound called it, "karanub gear"(which was between post-kara and early tk/ssc + new badge gear and a BT chest) and even on my first runs where I had no clue what to expect, I was gkicked for not taking a full-spec-gimping Imp FF talent.

Yeah, I'm back in DA now :P

[Kyudo]

As a guildmaster, I tried always to recruit people who fit with the rest of the group. That usually meant people in their late 20s to mid-30s who had careers and possibly kids. Folks in those stages of life are *generally* more understanding that WoW is a hobby for their guildmates, not a lifestyle. We've paused raids so that people could change diapers, and I've politely asked folks to leave if they were starting to take things too seriously or became obviously dissatisfied.

We'll never be a hardcore progression guild, but I think our members are happier with their WoW experience than a lot of folks in T6.

WTjoin Boyl's guild

[Vyndree]

I nominate Vyndree and her speccing/respeccing Shaman. I can't find the thread now.

That would be here: http://vboxing.net/blog/vboxing.php/...nt-enhancement

Ironically, my "competition" was banned almost exactly a month later during the botter banwave. One of the points I had brought up when the argument was still up in the air was the fact that the other shaman's rep looked "funny" (he was missing several common reputations which you normally see while leveling). According to Suvega, I now am the best geared enhancement shaman that is still active on our server.

Karma is lovely, isn't it? ;)

[Otlecs]

Holy crap, I'm lucky.

I've been in the same guild for over ten years, since its formation in Ultima Online, and although there have been natural highs and lows, I've never seen ANYBODY screwed over at all.

8|

[The_Whack]

As a guildmaster, I tried always to recruit people who fit with the rest of the group. That usually meant people in their late 20s to mid-30s who had careers and possibly kids. Folks in those stages of life are *generally* more understanding that WoW is a hobby for their guildmates, not a lifestyle. We've paused raids so that people could change diapers, and I've politely asked folks to leave if they were starting to take things too seriously or became obviously dissatisfied.

We'll never be a hardcore progression guild, but I think our members are happier with their WoW experience than a lot of folks in T6.

Now thats the kinda Guild I would LOVE to be in.

As for horror stories about Guild Life?

I was with a guild for only about 2 months, spent a LOT of time helping newbies with quests and such everyday.... anyhow a newbie gets recruited with the name "Pedofile". Naturally I complained, result was that I got booted within 2minutes of my complaint. I sent in a ticket to Blizz about the name and he was forced to have it changed. I received endless tells from the GM and Officers that I was such an asshole for doing what I did, eventually having to start over on another server.

My guess is that the character was an Alt of someone in the guild more important than me. I just don't understand peoples thinking, not just one person defending the character name but a dozen high ranking people in the guild. Blows my mind.

[scottig]

you like enhanement Vyndree? I thought about getting some s1 enhance gear just to try it out.