Quote Originally Posted by 'genocyde',index.php?page=Thread&postID=69746#post 69746
I was a hardcore raider Pre-BC, we raided 5 nights a week and i had 100% attendance from first the attempt at ZG to the first drake kill in BWL (ya 5 days a week for months and months 100% attendance = hardcore). In all these months of 100% attendance i was the top seed holy priest for attendance and performance. I was however on the list to go shadow.

To make a long story short i got 0 holy drops in 11 months of 5 day a week raiding that weren't full passes from the 8 other priests. I was 6th to get benediction and our first priest hit full tier 1 before i got my first peice. never really minded because i continued to keep up with performance even with horrbile gear and i was on the list to go shadow anyway. (we never ever had a shadow priest) Well about the time we started BWL i got them to agree to let me start rolling on shadow gear. Well the first peice drops off a first kill in BWL, drake shadow gloves i think. Well they wanted to give them to a lock and not let me roll, i said to hell with that i get to roll and they finally agreed thinking the lock could just outbid my dkp. WRONG! guess what not getting gear for 11 months means, i had more DKP then the next 4 highest people combined so i bid 1 more dkp then she had. After much deliberation they decided to let her bid the DKP she WOULD earn for the rest of the night and she won the gloves. Bidding DKP you had yet to earn had not been allowed even once before this in our guild. I proceeded to quit WOW for a year. That guild never did have a priest raid as shadow.

Edit: i fail at making long stories short!
That's complete horse crap. You're way better off being out of that guild.


Quote Originally Posted by 'zanthor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=69771#post6 9771
Quote Originally Posted by 'Icetech',index.php?page=Thread&postID=69701#post6 9701
Since someone brought up that guild leaders can be assholes...
Only the successful ones are assholes. The nice ones don't run guilds for long.
That's not even remotely true. The sucessful guild leaders are the ones who make solid, well thought out, fair guild rules in the beginning, a solid officer structure not based on favorism, and are firm in keeping within the rules that he started with irregardless if it means their friends and favorite guildes don't get loot over ones they don't like. The push-overs and the ones who constantly change the rules in a way to benefit themselves and their friends are the ones who don't run guilds for long.

Now that's not to say that the ones who are successful can't be assholes at the same time, or that the one's who aren't successful can't be either. All being an asshole to people does is makes them disloyal. Yea you'll see people continue to raid with an asshole guild leader for as long as it is profitable to that individual but come the first chance to move onto something bigger and better like are like "See ya later dickwad!"

Then of course a few month later when you the guild starts to go sour you'll see these same GL's start complaining that the guild is going to shit cause of all the lousy members being so disloyal and they have no clue why that is :P