worst dealing with a guild ever?

[Icetech]

Since someone brought up that guild leaders can be assholes... i was sitting here pondering.. whats the worst dealing that someone has had in their own guild? From being fucked outa loot for a officer that doesn't really need it... to just being shit on totally.. everyone has a bad experience... i would like to hear some if people wanna post em here

[genocyde]

I was a hardcore raider Pre-BC, we raided 5 nights a week and i had 100% attendance from first the attempt at ZG to the first drake kill in BWL (ya 5 days a week for months and months 100% attendance = hardcore). In all these months of 100% attendance i was the top seed holy priest for attendance and performance. I was however on the list to go shadow.

To make a long story short i got 0 holy drops in 11 months of 5 day a week raiding that weren't full passes from the 8 other priests. I was 6th to get benediction and our first priest hit full tier 1 before i got my first peice. never really minded because i continued to keep up with performance even with horrbile gear and i was on the list to go shadow anyway. (we never ever had a shadow priest) Well about the time we started BWL i got them to agree to let me start rolling on shadow gear. Well the first peice drops off a first kill in BWL, drake shadow gloves i think. Well they wanted to give them to a lock and not let me roll, i said to hell with that i get to roll and they finally agreed thinking the lock could just outbid my dkp. WRONG! guess what not getting gear for 11 months means, i had more DKP then the next 4 highest people combined so i bid 1 more dkp then she had. After much deliberation they decided to let her bid the DKP she WOULD earn for the rest of the night and she won the gloves. Bidding DKP you had yet to earn had not been allowed even once before this in our guild. I proceeded to quit WOW for a year. That guild never did have a priest raid as shadow.

Edit: i fail at making long stories short!

[qcumber]

wow genocyde, sorry to hear that, it is almost painful to read... it reminds me of my own experiences and why my prot war and holy priest left their guild and raiding altogether... thank god for 5 boxing... being called a bot and hacker and everything else beats guild politics ten times over...

[d0z3rr]

One raiding guild I was in a long time ago annoyed the shit out of me. I had perfect attendence every raid, stayed till the end and never left early. But since I was relatively quiet, I basically didn't exist and would have to beg for invites to raids. Whereas the loud mouths in Vent and Guild chat would instantly get invites, even though they were total douche bags and couldn't play their class for shit, or were always late.

[zanthor]

Since someone brought up that guild leaders can be assholes...

Only the successful ones are assholes. The nice ones don't run guilds for long.

[Fragmad]

Some warrior ninjaed that axe that drops in MC, can't remember the name.

[Tdog]

I was a hardcore raider Pre-BC, we raided 5 nights a week and i had 100% attendance from first the attempt at ZG to the first drake kill in BWL (ya 5 days a week for months and months 100% attendance = hardcore). In all these months of 100% attendance i was the top seed holy priest for attendance and performance. I was however on the list to go shadow.

To make a long story short i got 0 holy drops in 11 months of 5 day a week raiding that weren't full passes from the 8 other priests. I was 6th to get benediction and our first priest hit full tier 1 before i got my first peice. never really minded because i continued to keep up with performance even with horrbile gear and i was on the list to go shadow anyway. (we never ever had a shadow priest) Well about the time we started BWL i got them to agree to let me start rolling on shadow gear. Well the first peice drops off a first kill in BWL, drake shadow gloves i think. Well they wanted to give them to a lock and not let me roll, i said to hell with that i get to roll and they finally agreed thinking the lock could just outbid my dkp. WRONG! guess what not getting gear for 11 months means, i had more DKP then the next 4 highest people combined so i bid 1 more dkp then she had. After much deliberation they decided to let her bid the DKP she WOULD earn for the rest of the night and she won the gloves. Bidding DKP you had yet to earn had not been allowed even once before this in our guild. I proceeded to quit WOW for a year. That guild never did have a priest raid as shadow.

Edit: i fail at making long stories short!

That's complete horse crap. You're way better off being out of that guild.

Since someone brought up that guild leaders can be assholes...

Only the successful ones are assholes. The nice ones don't run guilds for long.

That's not even remotely true. The sucessful guild leaders are the ones who make solid, well thought out, fair guild rules in the beginning, a solid officer structure not based on favorism, and are firm in keeping within the rules that he started with irregardless if it means their friends and favorite guildes don't get loot over ones they don't like. The push-overs and the ones who constantly change the rules in a way to benefit themselves and their friends are the ones who don't run guilds for long.

Now that's not to say that the ones who are successful can't be assholes at the same time, or that the one's who aren't successful can't be either. All being an asshole to people does is makes them disloyal. Yea you'll see people continue to raid with an asshole guild leader for as long as it is profitable to that individual but come the first chance to move onto something bigger and better like are like "See ya later dickwad!"

Then of course a few month later when you the guild starts to go sour you'll see these same GL's start complaining that the guild is going to shit cause of all the lousy members being so disloyal and they have no clue why that is :P

[mackenziemi]

Since someone brought up that guild leaders can be assholes...

Only the successful ones are assholes. The nice ones don't run guilds for long.

That's not even remotely true. The sucessful guild leaders are the ones who make solid, well thought out, fair guild rules in the beginning, a solid officer structure not based on favorism, and are firm in keeping within the rules that he started with irregardless if it means their friends and favorite guildes don't get loot over ones they don't like. The push-overs and the ones who constantly change the rules in a way to benefit themselves and their friends are the ones who don't run guilds for long.

Now that's not to say that the ones who are successful can't be assholes at the same time, or that the one's who aren't successful can't be either. All being an asshole to people does is makes them disloyal. Yea you'll see people continue to raid with an asshole guild leader for as long as it is profitable to that individual but come the first chance to move onto something bigger and better like are like "See ya later dickwad!"

Then of course a few month later when you the guild starts to go sour you'll see these same GL's start complaining that the guild is going to shit cause of all the lousy members being so disloyal and they have no clue why that is :P[/quote]

All I can speak to is my own experience and the experiences that have been related to me by others, that said I think that guilds are fundamentally flawed. They aways, in the end, are just a mechanism by which some players can leech off of others. I have seen it time and time and time again. "Well Im taking that recipe since Im the guild leader I will make stuff for everyone and we all benefit." YEAH RIGHT!!! Can't tell you all the stories where they refused to make it, stole my mats, or told me they would get a around to it when they weren't so busy (which seems to always end up being the week after NEVER). Same goes for loot. I have seen guild leaders and officers take items that are side-grades or minor minor upgrades and leave the people the show up on time, well prepared, and contributing out in the cold.
I would also suggest that the bigger the guild the more likely this happens. This is one of the many reasons I am very happy that all the "raid" instances will be 10-manable. It seems to me that the smaller the guild more people call bull-crap on each other the less this stuff happens.

Just my opinion

[crzywolve]

I was a "casual" raider for quite a while when I first started playing. I have a friend that was in the number 3 guild (pre-BC) on our server. I tried for a full year to get in that guild. When my gear and lvl were good enough, I applied and got in. A month later the GM decided his grad school and personal life took priority over WoW and decided to disband the guild. Alot of people were really pissed, but I understood that RL takes priority. My friend was an officer in the guild and let me in on the fact that the guild "bank" (before there was actual guild banks) had about 3000gold and ALOT of blues and purples. Needless to say, noone got anything from the "bank" and the guild tag disappeared.

At first that all sounds fine and pretty normal for the game, but ... me and my friend ended up getting into another guild that alot of the ppl form that guild went to. We were doing really good too. THEN, out of nowhere, the old GM from the previous guild comes back with a NEW toon, epic flyer, AH purples and is instantly put in this guild as an officer.

Me and my friend dropped that guild as did ALOT of ppl from the previous guild. GM's ninja shit too.

[ImaHealer]

Guild leader turned over leadership of the guild to an Officer.
Former guild leader and current officers slowly, over a two week
period emptied 2 1/2 tabs of the 4 tab bank.
Each blaming the other for things going missing.
Last day of the guild the then guildmaster, cleans out the bank of
all remaining items and 3k gold and that we say is all she wrote for
the Katsu Guild Greymane.

fortunately my main was online at the time and persuaded the "GM"
to Instead of kicking everyone from the guild, or handing it over
to a recruit, to make my toon GM so the guild would not be a total loss.

He did so and promptly /gquit

Former guild master, her husband and brother log in see bank cleaned out
Go berserk /gquit and server transfer blaming everything on the "GM" that
just quit..

sooo that is my worst "Dealing with a Guild ever" story