For the record on the flaming in this thread- I have no problem w/ Fur. If you are starting out on something, a bit of humility goes a long way- not flaming those who have been here and contributed for a loooong time. Esp when the flaming is just a refusal to admit there could have been something irking in your OP.

As an aside- I think I'm gonna try Shaman 4x Arms Warrior for fun ... sometime after other killer combos I've been wanting to box. >)