Five boxing shaman in 5v5 arena questions

[animalrights]

I have been strongly considering to pick up multi boxing soon after being burnt out of playing solo on a mediocre realm, I would do five shaman if I did and would pursue 5v5 arena. In regard to race I see orc picked often which is for the stun resist and blood fury? The trolls racial seems that it would be of good use in arena since your bursting and the 10-30% speed increase would help but I don't know if it outweighs the orc racials. I was very curious to if chain lightning could take out two enemies at once if they were close enough from a NS+EM+trinketed CL? It seems this should be possible with five shaman but can it be done with less? Lastly is it more beneficial to take a healer as your fifth or is it purely for social purposes? Thanks in advance!

[Sun]

offense is the best defense.

ele shamans ftw. Thats my opinion and im stickin to it. I believe that if ur good at PVP you should be good in PVE. People who have the occasional tanks or healers in their groups are setup for PVE IMO. Not knockin it...to each his own. I am assuming you want the firepower by choosing shamans. Well, I have tried the 5x warlocks and I am impressed at how deadly they can be. I like both groups though.

good luck on whatever you decide to box.

[Boylston]

Having a healing partner (i.e. another real human partner) is immensely helpful in 5v5. Allows both people to focus on their respective roles and you'll have a much easier time. Arena can happen fast and furious, and you'll be a good healer or a good DPSer, but not both...

Shock and awe is fine, but it'll be used against you as well and you'll be toast without a healing partner.

[Eteocles]

Speaking purely from 3boxing on the PTR tourny realm, I can vouch for the above statement regarding a non-boxed healer. in 3v3s I got decimated by any group with a healer; too much micro not enough dps and needs lots of movement to survive. In 5v5s I recruited a healer and misc 5th to go with my trios and we obliterated people because I didn't have to worry about healing or extra CC beyond grounding totems, the healer kept me healed and I burnt down anyone going after them if I could help it. 2 heads really are better than 1 :P

[Arryth]

I have been strongly considering to pick up multi boxing soon after being burnt out of playing solo on a mediocre realm, I would do five shaman if I did and would pursue 5v5 arena. In regard to race I see orc picked often which is for the stun resist and blood fury? The trolls racial seems that it would be of good use in arena since your bursting and the 10-30% speed increase would help but I don't know if it outweighs the orc racials. I was very curious to if chain lightning could take out two enemies at once if they were close enough from a NS+EM+trinketed CL? It seems this should be possible with five shaman but can it be done with less? Lastly is it more beneficial to take a healer as your fifth or is it purely for social purposes? Thanks in advance!

I have not reached arena yet with my team, but enhancement was alot of fun in the 40's bracket. Storm strike x5 and windfury was just sick.. 42's just should not be able to one shot 49 twinks.

[animalrights]

Sounds like a healer makes a noticeable difference then, I'm assuming since you (Boylston) and Aelli both take one in arena its the optimal balance. One of the biggest things I'm still wondering has to do with chain lightning. After purging a target, if this is even needed when fully geared/gemmed, will EM+NS+CL always instagib? I read in your blog Boylston that their is a point where CL has a 95% kill rate, so most likely that fifth shaman will only hurt you? Also what about The Lightning Capacitor? If you can successfully hit three people with your EM+NS+CL combo, thats a guaranteed proc off of The Lightning Capacitor to hit the last person to receive the conclusion of your CL, and at 694-806 per bolt it seems that would do some damage! Does the battlemaster trinket beat The Lightning Capacitor in overall usefulness with its 1750 life trinket. Lastly, will spell haste be the new hot thing since it will affect the global cooldown?

[StormClouds]

Sounds like a healer makes a noticeable difference then, I'm assuming since you (Boylston) and Aelli both take one in arena its the optimal balance. One of the biggest things I'm still wondering has to do with chain lightning. After purging a target, if this is even needed when fully geared/gemmed, will EM+NS+CL always instagib? I read in your blog Boylston that their is a point where CL has a 95% kill rate, so most likely that fifth shaman will only hurt you? Also what about The Lightning Capacitor? If you can successfully hit three people with your EM+NS+CL combo, thats a guaranteed proc off of The Lightning Capacitor to hit the last person to receive the conclusion of your CL, and at 694-806 per bolt it seems that would do some damage! Does the battlemaster trinket beat The Lightning Capacitor in overall usefulness with its 1750 life trinket. Lastly, will spell haste be the new hot thing since it will affect the global cooldown?

actually it isnt, lightning capacitor has a cooldown on adding charges on it for reasons like this (and warlock Soc) you can not proc it off of 1 spell cast

[animalrights]

Having a healing partner (i.e. another real human partner) is immensely helpful in 5v5. Allows both people to focus on their respective roles and you'll have a much easier time. Arena can happen fast and furious, and you'll be a good healer or a good DPSer, but not both...

Shock and awe is fine, but it'll be used against you as well and you'll be toast without a healing partner.

Sounds like a healer makes a noticeable difference then, I'm assuming since you and Aelli both take one in arena its the optimal balance. One of the biggest things I'm still wondering has to do with chain lightning. After purging a target, if this is even needed when fully geared/gemmed, will EM+NS+CL always instagib? I read in your blog that their is a point where CL has a 95% kill rate, so most likely that fifth shaman will only hurt you? Also what about The Lightning Capacitor? If you can successfully hit three people with your EM+NS+CL combo, thats a guaranteed proc off of The Lightning Capacitor to hit the last person to receive the conclusion of your CL, and at 694-806 per bolt that does some damage! Not to mention if you ever happened to run OOM you could spam rank 1 lightning bolt at 1 second a cast (with talent) and still do moderate dps from capacitor procs. I'm assuming the battlemaster trinket beats The Lightning Capacitor in overall usefulness with its 1750 life trinket and sustained dps. Lastly, will spell haste be the new hot thing since it will affect the global cooldown?

[animalrights]

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[quote='animalrights',index.php?page=Thread&postID= 58355#post58355]Sounds like a healer makes a noticeable difference then, I'm assuming since you (Boylston) and Aelli both take one in arena its the optimal balance. One of the biggest things I'm still wondering has to do with chain lightning. After purging a target, if this is even needed when fully geared/gemmed, will EM+NS+CL always instagib? I read in your blog Boylston that their is a point where CL has a 95% kill rate, so most likely that fifth shaman will only hurt you? Also what about The Lightning Capacitor? If you can successfully hit three people with your EM+NS+CL combo, thats a guaranteed proc off of The Lightning Capacitor to hit the last person to receive the conclusion of your CL, and at 694-806 per bolt it seems that would do some damage! Does the battlemaster trinket beat The Lightning Capacitor in overall usefulness with its 1750 life trinket. Lastly, will spell haste be the new hot thing since it will affect the global cooldown?[/quote]actually it isnt, lightning capacitor has a cooldown on adding charges on it for reasons like this (and warlock Soc) you can not proc it off of 1 spell cast[/quote]I was reading the description on wowwiki and i took it as you couldnt fire off a bolt more than once every 2.5 seconds, so its actually you cannot build a charge more than once every 2.5 seconds?

This is from wowwiki: This item was changed in [url='http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3']Patch 2.3[/url]. It now has a 2.5 second cooldown after each lightning bolt. The tooltip is quite misleading. It is actually meant to be "cannot be discharged more than once every 2.5 seconds".

From this definition I can only conclude that it is after every bolt that their is a 2.5 cooldown, as it does not say electrical charge ?(

[Lightning Capacitor]: This item now has a 2.5 second cooldown on acquiring Electrical Charges. I just went through the actual patch notes and it is 2.5 seconds between each electrical charge, bummer :wacko:

[Fear The Wrath]

although i have only done 5v5 with 5 shaman [have tried 4 shaman + healer] id say i love the 5 shaman idea! its great and pwns if you know how to play:/
but then again having 4 shaman on the pure offense and a dedicated healer seems very tempting too8D