Solo is the new Gimp!

[Vyndree]

wow wow wow wow.... this guild 'leader' is aware that you re-specced, got more gear, learned more events for your 1st time attempting (and then winning them), and put in more effort in FIVE DAYS than it would take 99% of players to accomplish in 6 weeks?! Please tell me he's aware.

All without a penis! Imagine that!

He knows that on a regular basis you handle FIVE TIMES the warcraft he does? What a clown, seriously.

Yeah... This was all explained in great detail thanks to Suvega's post on the guild officer forums (in which the 84 AP delta was compared to LW drums). I was the popular choice by the officers -- only the guild leader and the guy who was friends with the other shaman did not want me as the main raiding shaman. However, the guild leader is the one who does the /invites, and forms the raid composition each day. Suvega had been hint hint, nudge nudging him to put me in the raid but I was consistenly being sidelined. I didn't even get an /invite for BT yesterday, but by then I had already made my decision.

I mass /gquit on all of my characters already, and I heard from two sources and Suvega doesn't deny the possibility that, despite my being decided as the better shaman both mathematically (via LW drums) and through my 4-5 months of guild loyalty already shown -- the guild leader wants men. Ironically enough our guild isn't DEVOID of females, but they're only in spots where there isn't a possibility of finding an equivalentaly geared male (i.e. they're both shadowpriests, and there are no BT/Hyjal geared male shadowpriests available).

I have some old friends who aren't on such cutting-edge raiding content for our server that have been wanting me around for some time now. so I'm not exactly left in the dust. However, the enhancement gear I collected isn't really going to find itself much use.


On a total side-note, the guild leader has a habit of making promises and not keeping them. Yesterday the offhand warglaives dropped from Illidan, and I guess he had promised one of our tanking warriors that they would get the next drop. Of course, it was more logical to give it to a DPS class that would actually benefit the raid, which was what was actually done, but you really shouldn't make hasty promises to your MT. We had two of our tanks QQ'ing for an hour before they could actually loot the warglaive the the rogue. Both were threatening to gamequit. :P

[Vyndree]

I'm sure this post will be met with some degree of criticism.

Personally, I avoid guilds with girls in.

Reasoning behind it, is that I hate unnessecary drama and I feel that in the guilds I have belonged to where girls have been involved, that is where it stems from.

While that's understandable in some fashion, I just want to make sure you realize that this "drama" you're trying to avoid most likely did not stem with the girl. It's the "immature boys" that you're trying to avoid.

Which, of course, you're going to continue to have. But instead of QQing about some girl they'll be QQing about loot distribution and DKP and "why did I not get an invite to the raid?!" and then ninja-afk'ing in the middle of a pull and yelling mass profanities and chuck norris jokes in /gchat.

So, I guess what I'm saying is -- by avoiding the females in order to avoid the drama that immature boys have when they're near them, you're really trying to avoid the immature boys. And since you're really not avoiding the immature boys at all..... get my drift?


Besides, I had been in this guild 4-5 months as "friend status" and caused no major fuss. Nor did the other few females in that guild. In fact, our MT's and OT's cause more drama between themselves than I can ever imagine causing.

[Majestic_Clown]

I love having girls in guild

One of the core raid leaders is a women and she takes no shit!

[Gallo]

I love having girls in guild

One of the core raid leaders is a women and she takes no shit!

I /agree. Theres only so much I can handle of hearing nothing but teenage boys on vent. /wrists

[Vyndree]

With Vent, it's hard to hide the fact that we're female but if you didn't know the player behind the screen was a female, I don't think it would make a difference. Are you telling me that if you met a phenomenal healer/MT/DPS who rocked everyone's socks off, you'd just leave that guild when you found out it was a female? What if there were a couple high end female raiders? We've already proven that we can run with the boys so why not just give us a chance?

I'm not necessarily sure that's the fact with this guild. The problem comes when you have to relatively equivalent options, but one is a male player behind the keyboard and the other is a female player.

We have a couple females in the guild -- a warlock and a couple shadowpriests. But if there EVER is a male of that class with near equivalent gear for the raid instance we're going to, the females will be benched.


In any case, I am not a big chatty ventrilo person, and it's a known thing with the people I play with. I speak only when it's an emergency -- like I've pulled aggro or done something stupid. (See? I told you I don't speak often. Mwahahaha)
When it's just chit-chat time, I keep my voice out of the equation. I get asked a question pre-pull? I type my response in /raid.

I like being mistaken for just "one of the guys". When they realize I'm not going to cry at their dirty jokes or make them feel uncomfortable, it's alot easier to get past the "she's a GIRL?!" phase and get straight into the "damn, you're a good player" part. I pride myself on the levels I can push to. Prior to WoW I was a competitive guild wars player, and with me as a core player in our guild vs guild battles we made it to the top 100. When I put my mind to something, I don't play around.



In the end, if a guild snubs me because of something that I can't control nor want to, it's their loss.

[Eteocles]

Two words Wilbur: SAUSAGE FEST.

I'd call him a hypocrite if he gave a TANK one of the best offhands in the game. The tank wants it because it's shiny and orange...in a raid guild you simply don't have an offspec especially when it comes to raid loot until the primary specs get theirs; giving a tank a warglaive...lol; anyways I say he'd be a hypocrite for citing AP vs Drums then giving a freakin awesome offhand to anything but a Rogue(or Fury Warr if he'd use it right; if a hunter so much as speaks up for it I'd smack him into next week if a melee needed it first).

It's a dps weapon and when it comes to raid loot, you gear for your primary long-term job first. Exceptions may happen but for the most part that's how most guilds that're capable of getting to illidan do it lol; I COULD use healing and feral pieces since I do end up temp-specing to OT or gear-switching to offheal but my main longterm goal is pewpewpew so I stick to gear that benefits my main goals of dmg/hit/crit/haste. Mr. Tank needs to learn to keep a Shield in his offhand, not a giant green blade.(and yes, I do understand he "could" use it to farm/pvp out of raid time, but that's why I emphasized the whole "main raid spec first" bit above; if you're in a progression raiding guild, they're worried about your gear being setup for raid progression, not farming or pvp)

[Vyndree]

It's a dps weapon and when it comes to raid loot, you gear for your primary long-term job first. Exceptions may happen but for the most part that's how most guilds that're capable of getting to illidan do it lol; I COULD use healing and feral pieces since I do end up temp-specing to OT or gear-switching to offheal but my main longterm goal is pewpewpew so I stick to gear that benefits my main goals of dmg/hit/crit/haste. Mr. Tank needs to learn to keep a Shield in his offhand, not a giant green blade.(and yes, I do understand he "could" use it to farm/pvp out of raid time, but that's why I emphasized the whole "main raid spec first" bit above; if you're in a progression raiding guild, they're worried about your gear being setup for raid progression, not farming or pvp)

I totally agree and if I had any decision in the loot distribution, it would have gone to the rogue. (which it did, btw, and the rogue is very happy)

What I disagree with is the GL's use of promises to the MT/OT that he clearly wasn't intending to keep. He uses these promises when there are any sort of argument that he just wants to get people to stfu about. Which is probably why he let people believe that I would be the main enhancement shaman. He just wanted to shut people up until the next raid, but was clearly intending to take the other shaman and bench me regardless.

[Eteocles]

Yeah...that guild leader sucks, you're better off away from him :p Poor Suv being stuck there still though(I assume since you said only you gquit); I wouldn't have stuck around either, he's just full of shit and needs to learn girl gamers are just guys with boobs(lol)

On a more topic-related note, who DID PM you about the original arena stuff? Mostly curious, you can not say if you prefer to avoid witch hunts

[Vyndree]

Yeah...that guild leader sucks, you're better off away from him Poor Suv being stuck there still though(I assume since you said only you gquit); I wouldn't have stuck around either, he's just full of shit and needs to learn girl gamers are just guys with boobs(lol)

There really aren't many other options for raiding at that level. Our server is kinda left in the dust when it comes to progression. Suvega is aware of the mistakes in the guild and I've asked him what would happen if he ended up getting his short end of the stick from the Guild Leader, and he's prepared to stick with it up until that happens. Right now he's a guild officer (which doesn't mean much since the GL can effectively veto anything you say) and he's in a place where he can see Sunwell content.

On a more topic-related note, who DID PM you about the original arena stuff? Mostly curious, you can not say if you prefer to avoid witch hunts

Eh, I'd rather not. You of all people should know that the community would likely lynch that person, and I really apologize for the flak you had to deal with while I was taking a break.

In any case, it has been handled appropriately.


....jeez I sound like a blue from the CSF forum.

[Eteocles]

Hah not a problem, I covered myself well enough and yeah I understand why you'd rather not :p