Think I'm Done

[NightFire]

Blaming the military is retarded.... I'm retired from the Army... When I wasn't deployed, I would spend 30 out of 45 days in the field... I still had time to raid to T2 gear (pre-bc). (not to mention spending time with my wife)

Other military members in my guild also have done the same. Over 75% of the officers in the guild are military members, from different branches and are in the top 5 guilds on the server for raid progression.

Blaming the military for your inability is a sham.

It's all about time management.

(Eternium on Shu'Halo is the guild I'm referring to)

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Part of me wishes I did the same thing. But I didn't want to wait till I was 40 to do a lot of things at the same time.

Besides - 4 years in and my knees are in pretty bad shape. 20 years? I probably would have been in a wheelchair shortly afterwards. Running 3+ miles a day on pavement is bad, mmmkay! :P

Ha! Which is why I went armor instead of infantry. Why walk when you can ride?

[Mosg2]

Blaming the military is retarded.... I'm retired from the Army... When I wasn't deployed, I would spend 30 out of 45 days in the field... I still had time to raid to T2 gear (pre-bc). (not to mention spending time with my wife)

Other military members in my guild also have done the same. Over 75% of the officers in the guild are military members, from different branches and are in the top 5 guilds on the server for raid progression.

Blaming the military for your inability is a sham.

It's all about time management.

(Eternium on Shu'Halo is the guild I'm referring to)

That's great for you. I'm happy that there are military people who can enjoy it. Now let's talk about people who are at what we call the sharp end of the spear:

No, can't really say that I could be in a raiding guild. It's too random when I'm deployed or not deployed.

[Los]

No, you're not the one complaining how Blizz's system is farked. You are the one offering snarky, unhelpful comments who also needs to take some comprehension lessons.

You can't just quit the military my friend. Saying "There is only 'I won't, not I can't' in life" to someone in the military is insensitive, uncalled for, and plain wrong.

Wauw, trained to kill, but somebody telling you to stop whining and change what you are doing if you dont like something, is insensitive. Like more people said, its not farked, its your perspective upon it that is farked, whatever the bleep that may mean. But ill refrain from further comments since your delicateness might take more dents, and I dont want you to burst into tears.

[Basilikos]

Wauw, trained to kill, but somebody telling you to stop whining and change what you are doing if you dont like something, is insensitive. Like more people said, its not farked, its your perspective upon it that is farked, whatever the bleep that may mean. But ill refrain from further comments since your delicateness might take more dents, and I dont want you to burst into tears.

Was that really called for?

[thinus]

Wauw, trained to kill, but somebody telling you to stop whining and change what you are doing if you dont like something, is insensitive. Like more people said, its not farked, its your perspective upon it that is farked, whatever the bleep that may mean. But ill refrain from further comments since your delicateness might take more dents, and I dont want you to burst into tears.

Seriously, get some perspective.

WoW is a *game*, it is entertainment, it is for a lot of us a hobby. It is something we do when we have time off. We do *not* schedule our real lives around WoW, we schedule WoW around our real lives. Raiding requires a long term commitment to a fixed schedule which is not an option for a lot of us. A lot of the top end raiding guilds require 80%+ attendance as well and if you don't show up very regularly your spot gets filled by someone else. The full time raiders will usually get preference over part time raiders. When I was raiding I didn't mind sitting out for part time raiders and we also had a rotation going, but, when you are learning new encounters you want your best geared regular raiders there if you want serious attempts. Bringing part timers with lesser gear that haven't attempted the encounter before does not help your progression.

Also, raids are not really fun for a lot of us. I enjoy the challenge of learning the new encounters. Unfortunately with raids you are depending on the right class balance, gear and 24 other people to know what they are doing. Not enough healing, sorry no raid. Not enough tanks, sorry no raid. Not enough dps, lots of wipes coming up. Raiding also involves lots of waiting and keeping 25 people focused and farming for your repairs and consumables.

And even when you have an encounter on farm you keep doing the encounter over and over and over and over and over to gear people up.

The negatives of raiding just outweighs the positives for me personally.

[Mosg2]

And echoing what Thinus said, in order to get and maintain a high rated (2k+) team you need to have the same level of consistency.

[Los]

Wauw, trained to kill, but somebody telling you to stop whining and change what you are doing if you dont like something, is insensitive. Like more people said, its not farked, its your perspective upon it that is farked, whatever the bleep that may mean. But ill refrain from further comments since your delicateness might take more dents, and I dont want you to burst into tears.

Seriously, get some perspective.

WoW is a *game*, it is entertainment, it is for a lot of us a hobby. It is something we do when we have time off. We do *not* schedule our real lives around WoW, we schedule WoW around our real lives. Raiding requires a long term commitment to a fixed schedule which is not an option for a lot of us. A lot of the top end raiding guilds require 80%+ attendance as well and if you don't show up very regularly your spot gets filled by someone else. The full time raiders will usually get preference over part time raiders. When I was raiding I didn't mind sitting out for part time raiders and we also had a rotation going, but, when you are learning new encounters you want your best geared regular raiders there if you want serious attempts. Bringing part timers with lesser gear that haven't attempted the encounter before does not help your progression.

Also, raids are not really fun for a lot of us. I enjoy the challenge of learning the new encounters. Unfortunately with raids you are depending on the right class balance, gear and 24 other people to know what they are doing. Not enough healing, sorry no raid. Not enough tanks, sorry no raid. Not enough dps, lots of wipes coming up. Raiding also involves lots of waiting and keeping 25 people focused and farming for your repairs and consumables.

And even when you have an encounter on farm you keep doing the encounter over and over and over and over and over to gear people up.

The negatives of raiding just outweighs the positives for me personally.

Thinus I was giving that perspective and was trying to explain it more then once now I think, and besides, he can make remarks pointing at me, and I can respond to them.

My point was that if you can't do it because of work, real life, or whatever, WHY should something like for instance, ratings, be removed? The world does not circle around certain persons who are complaining and yelling to throw in a towel.

I know the whole raid drill, been there done that, got myself some tshirts. Your story goes up partially, you would have done fine in guild where you would have expressed to raid, 2 days? 3 days? Or every raid for a few weeks and then some time you couldnt because of work of whatever, the nihilum typed of guilds would probably not take you, but take somebody else who can come 24/7. Thats not harsh or mean or 'a bad game because you need to be a nolifer' no thats all not true, its just the way things are, you CAN NOT have it all, and the world shouldnt be put to a halt because of it.

[Los]

And echoing what Thinus said, in order to get and maintain a high rated (2k+) team you need to have the same level of consistency.

No you dont, seasons take about 4 months, time enough to scrounge points.

[mikeb]

Blizzard is trying to fix the game I'm fine with that. I don't really care as a multi-boxer. Besides WotLK is only months away. I would rather multi-box casually then grind like an idiot. Seriously RL and multi-boxing > grinding.