Policy Update for Input Broadcasting - May 2021

[nodoze]

Why are they going to jump through all those hoops to support a vast minority of their population? Getting the classic server in the first place was pulling teeth... add the massive amount of people who started using multiboxing to farm mats en masse and you've got the straw that broke the camel's back. Its purely an appeasement move, and someone has to get thrown under the bus.

Blizzard already has the tech to easily create one or more servers and limit realm transfers if/as needed and limit auction house integration... Likely some folk that don't really multibox but don't care much about it would also create characters there (for example, just in my case, my brother and at least 3 friends also would create characters there). It would be easy to do and likely a single server for that would have more active population than some of the other servers...

There are lots of dead servers currently and really they should look at merging servers after the TBC Hype dies off and the active server populations go back to a relatively steady state. My understanding is that their servers are VMs with underlying hardware hosts so they should already even have the hardware capacity via flexible ways of growing/shrinking VMs (including shards/etc).

I don't think Blizzard would do it but it isn't difficult nor beyond current capabilities (nothing really new would be needed).

[nodoze]

hey guys i use JOE multiboxer , am i not able to use it anymore due to this ?

At a minimum I would NOT use any "Round Robin" type features anymore...

The following are the comments that I could find from Lax regarding the use of JMB going forward:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...l=1#post434394

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...l=1#post434406

In a similar stance the following is what Moorea posted about WoW Open Box even before Lax posted:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...l=1#post434385

Personally if I use any tool to assist me in boxing going forward I will likely only use a tool that helps me get setup for boxing and that can be fully closed after initial setup (and maybe before actually logging into any wow client)... That or I will go back to just straight Windows OS or at most very skinny apps or batch files to turn on/off mouse-over-focus (if I continue to use that).

[Uhnknown]

Blizzard already has the tech to easily create one or more servers and limit realm transfers if/as needed and limit auction house integration... Likely some folk that don't really multibox but don't care much about it would also create characters there (for example, just in my case, my brother and at least 3 friends also would create characters there). It would be easy to do and likely a single server for that would have more active population than some of the other servers...

There are lots of dead servers currently and really they should look at merging servers after the TBC Hype dies off and the active server populations go back to a relatively steady state.

I don't think Blizzard would do it but it isn't difficult nor beyond current capabilities (nothing really new would be needed).

I can see some of this happening in the future, maybe. Though it's not something i would expect anytime soon, considering they're only just now getting around to launching older expansion servers.

Everquest has been doing the same thing for years and years, with varying rulesets, marketplace purchases, etc. So to some extent i'd honestly expect a lot of what Everquest does now to end up happening to a degree for WoW "Classic" servers. Not to mention they specifically hired Holly Longdale (who basically, if not literally lead all of those things Everquest did for EQ TLPs, of which made DBG a lot of money every time there was a new server launched). So now she's working for Acti-Blizz, and we'll see what ends up happening in the future.

[WOWBOX40]

I guess we all might be blowing these "updated policy wordings changes" up a bit?: since players just continue to hardware box (f.ex "Multidayz":https://youtube.com/c/MultiDayz ).

Maybe a upcoming podcast could explain whats going on... are people safe to continue boxing... or not? https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...-uu438JdEPJDHI

[Spyro]

In the future I hope they enable character transfers between accounts in TBC, coz now having a bunch of 60's scattered in a multitude of accounts is basically useless, I want to move them to the same account.

It's clear that they are not gonna do it in the short-term (coz people would abuse the shit out of it with the paid boost), but I hope they change their stance when the hype fades.

A good solution would be to allow it only for level 70 characters, so people can't abuse it with the level 58 boost, coz they would be forced to manually level the char to 70 before been able to move it to a different account.

[luxlunae]

Ok, so now that there is no legal way to do multiboxing, can we reopen the conversation here about multiboxing on private servers? It isn't something I've ever done but there is now nothing at risk for isboxer to support private servers.

[bpkdasbaum]

Ok, so now that there is no legal way to do multiboxing, can we reopen the conversation here about multiboxing on private servers? It isn't something I've ever done but there is now nothing at risk for isboxer to support private servers.

You are still allowed to multibox. Just can't use any software or hardware support.


https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/24258

Multiboxing, or playing multiple World of Warcraft accounts at once, is not a violation of our End User License Agreement. Please note, however, that use of all software or hardware mechanisms used to mirror commands to multiple World of Warcraft accounts at the same time, or to automate or streamline multiboxing in any way may result in account penalties.

[nodoze]

Most folk still boxing are trying to be compliant with "mouse-over-focus" boxing (or simple Alt-Tab) software wise...

Hardware-wise some of those that invested in multiple PCs/VMs/Multiseat_Desktops are looking into having small dedicated keyboards/keypads/keysticks for each PC. Possibly the cheapest way to do with inexpensive 10key-number-pads but a more dense option that is not too expensive is like this:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...cement-options

[jak3676]

Hey all. I think I've finally worked through being mad. Still pretty depressed about the whole thing. I unsubscribed all 5 of my accounts.

I was really looking forward to to TBC-Classic, really loved the idea of running all my own dungeons and probably some really poor quality 5v5 arena. But it seems like the intent here is to ban any effective method of multiboxing at a high level.

I see a few folks are continuing on with some new non-streamlined multiboxing. I really hope that works out. But now I'm pretty pessimistic that if the community does figure something out that Blizz will just ban that also. I hope I'm wrong.

I would like to thank so many people for all the help over the last 12 years. I'd miss so many people if I tried to name them all, so I won't try. But thank you all for so many years of fun.

[nodoze]

Jak, Very sorry to see you go as you helped so many people. I cancelled my subscription renewals back on the day of the previous November announcement though some of subscriptions lasted till March or so... I am not happy right now and I am also semi-pessimistic and am only considering coming back for TBC-Classic because my brother and some friends (all non-boxers) are and because original TBC and WoTLK were really our "gaming heyday" (and when I really got into boxing)... If they were not playing Classic-TBC I would be done... I am likely going to try to 5box in a hobbled but hopefully compliant manner on 5 separate accounts from my primary/original account because I have little faith or trust in Blizzard anymore and want to protect my original account... If I get banned on those extra 5 accounts (or just hate boxing in a hobbled way by trying to be compliant) then frankly I will be done boxing on Blizzard Servers... I may still play TBC-Classic on my one original account some just to be with friends/family but it will be with even more sadness than I have right now...

I do see lots of folk trying to continue boxing by, since Blizzard is being so hostile/difficult, moving to be boxing on Private Servers... While I used to speak out against that I frankly now don't blame them and no longer feel compelled to speak out against that... I don't know if my change in feelings is because of anger toward Blizzard or because I don't care anymore or because people tried more than reasonably enough to be complaint or something else (or a combination of all or those) but frankly that is the way I feel currently... I suspect my feelings have not gone through all the stages they will go through yet but that is where I am now... I am a long time loyal Blizzard customer who is very sad...