Ellay: Looking for a bit of guidance :)

[Ellay]

I found an 85% finished rendered edition of the clip in my recycle bin so it cuts off about 15% of the movie. I'll make a better one but in the meantime this should hold you guys over.

http://files.filefront.com/Aelli+Are.../fileinfo.html

Enjoy

[Crucial]

Alright, I'm uploading the video right now - I found an 85% finished rendered edition of the clip in my recycle bin so it cuts off about 15% of the movie. Gimme about an hour and you should see the link here. I'll make a better one but in the meantime this should hold you guys over.

Thanks Ellay, you da man!

[Boom]

Perhaps I missed something, but all I saw was Boom thinking it might be an idea to have some kind of 'who gets to see the video list' and now your all rattling off your armory details. I thnik there are plenty of us who would be very interested to watch Ellays video and dont have 5 Shaman at 70 in a average 1500 rated team. So to your idea Boom, I say fuck that for a joke.

Slats,

I apologize if my idea offended ya bud. I was simply bringing up the thought, which I still think is valid. But just because the thought is valid, it doesn't mean I'm throwing my hat into it.

The validity comes from the realization that alot of 4xshammy Arena teams are suddenly facing. We're losing. Bad. While Ellay posts 75+game winning streaks. We're quick to blame this on gear, and for good reason. But we've started to see several 4xS teams head in with very respectable gear, and they're still losing.

So either we all suck (very possible) or Ellay has stumbled upon something truly impressive, and therefore truly valuable.

There are alot of things of value that are kept secret. If you DIDNT respond with "F@## that for a joke", I'd be worried it wasn't worth keeping a secret. The very fact that you chose to respond with profanity says we're on to something.

But personally, I think the spirit of these forums would be violated if we DID keep Ellay's video a secret. Logic would tell you to keep multiboxing a secret as long as you can. But instead, we as a community have chosen to post on these forums, the official forums, and even post videos on You Tube... the result? Blizz finally backs us up in a very public way. Score one for open source.

To to recap, I offered the suggestion to Ellay, being it's his video, because there were valid reasons behind it. Your response confirms that. But now that we're at the end, I'm glad Ellay is choosing to post it publicly. I'm REALLY interested in the thread that starts here to discuss the video. That should be fun.

I just hope it doesn't debut on the official PvP forums for a bit, but I'm not holding my breath.

Boom

[Boom]

I found an 85% finished rendered edition of the clip in my recycle bin so it cuts off about 15% of the movie. I'll make a better one but in the meantime this should hold you guys over.

http://files.filefront.com/Aelli+Are.../fileinfo.html

Enjoy

Thanks Ellay! Downloading now.

[Mosg2]

Downloading now!

[Boom]

FANTASTIC VID. Simply fantastic. I learned several key things, and I'll post about them later. Maybe we need a new thread for it. But wanted to thank you for the post right away Ellay.

One thing I WILL point out, that you have, and I NEED to get, is patience. I love the "rogue bait" trick too.

Thanks again bud. Hope to see the full version soon.

Boom

[Boylston]

Seriously... Ellay. This is AWESOME so far.

Here's some takeaways for me so far:

* I am not purging enough. Question: do 4xPurges strip off 8 total buffs, or do they overlap/cancel like a grounding totem can sometimes eat multiple spells?
* Seems like you often purge before DPSing. Is this the case, or did the video just highlight some special cases.
* I am OK at positioning, but my patience needs work... Video reinforces that creeping towards them is bad bad bad.
* I have been practicing alt-turning independently of my main for a while, and I need to incorporate that better.
* Nagrand rogue-baiting was a great suggestion.
* Ghost wolf at beginning to prevent sap!! I already knew this from being a solo shaman, but somehow I was losing this knowledge when we've been 4xShaman in arenas.

Probably some more I've left out. Thanks again, can't wait for the full version. This was awesome, awesome, awesome!!

[crebble]

even tho it might be good with a forum thread specificaly for arena that visitors cant see.
im redirecting wery many peeps to dual-boxing since i cant bother explaining to everyone wtf is going on, and i wouldnt either tell how to do to kick a boxer in arena.
it would be ok tho to tell the rest about some tips n tricks.

/stick

[Dezeral]

Ellay,

I didn't think it was boring at all. You confirmed several things that I thought were good ideas, but wasn't really sure of. You also pointed out a few things that I have struggled with. If I sit in one place for very long, I start to feel like I should be doing something. Patience patience patience.

I have two major problems that I haven't found good solutions for so far. My gear has increased 10 fold in the last two weeks, so one of these may not be as big of a problem as it used to be. First is mages spamming arcane explosion while bouncing around inside my group or worse yet multiple mages doing this. We had two games this week against 5 mage teams. 1 or 2 would stand back and blizzard while 3 rushed in and arcane explosioned like mad. Any tips to counter this?

Second (this one may not be nearly as big of an issue now as I've increased my HP/Armor/Resilince dramatically in the last two weeks) is rogue(s) getting in amongst my guys and bladefurying the living crap out of me while I'm trying to shock/nova/magma them down.

Part of my strategy has been to use EM/NS early to try to kill one person quickly. I see that this is probably not a good idea. I've used it numerous times only to have a mage/paladin/rogue use their "oh shit" abilities to prevent the kill. It looks like waiting a bit to make sure you've got them low enough so that a EM/NS chain lightning is enough to gib them instead of just drop them low enough for a 4xfrost shock or 4x lighting bolt volley is enough to kill them; thus giving them a chance to bubble/iceblock/vanish and escape death.

Anyway, thanks for posting what you have done so far and I look forward to hearing more from you and seeing more tips.

[Bollwerk]

I didn't find the 85% clip boring at all. I was fascinated. (and disappointed when it ended early, heh)