Unethical Gameplay?

[Wubsie]

- I don`t think any has 100% focus on the game if they are standstill/simi afk farming. It bee us as multiboxer or the goblin farming for a pet.

I'm not saying you need to have 100% focus on the game and nothing but. Plenty of people watch movies, streams and whatnot while playing. However they still have a level of focus on the game as well. In the situations we're talking about there is next to none. The player is either nearly, or completely disconnected from the game and unable to react to even basic stimuli for extended periods of time. This is not the same as briefly talking to your stream, or watching a movie on a secondary monitor while playing where your focus most likely jumps back and forth between the 2.

- It`s has nothing to do with time - is 1 hour off focus more bad than 5 min. you still not looking at your game.

It has everything to do with time, and naturally the intent of gaining benefits without having to 'suffer' the work normally required. I don't think anyone would claim that you can not do anything apart from playing while you are playing. If my fiance walks in and wants to talk about something for a minute or 2, you bet your ass I'm pulling off my headset and focusing on the conversation with her, even if I am still hitting keys, if for example I was mid fight. I don't think anyone would claim that this would be somehow ban worthy. I don't see how you're able to draw an equals sign between this and creating a system where you are more or less completely disconnected from the game but still reaping the benefits of playing, plausibly for hours on end. It's just not nearly the same thing. Just because it's hard to quantify the amount of time and focus needed to be considered to be actively playing with specific numbers does not mean there isn't an important disctinction between the two situations and I don't think it's possible to hide behind the whole "it's still my keypresses doing it" in these scenarios.

- TSM snpping your toon standstill for hours at the AH and you are doing stuff on your main/watch tv or what ever - and you only focus on that toon when you hear the sound go off, is that Unethical Gameplay?

I'm not too familiar with TSM Snipe, but my understanding is that it scans the AH for auctions listed substantially under market value and informs you off any it finds, right?

The difference here is that for the addon to do it's work, it requires no action from you, apart from doing the purchase. The time you are not focused on your character, essentially nothing is happening. Additionally the Add-on runs in the LUA "sandbox" that Blizzard has left for addon developers. If they deem it to be destructive or too automated, they can simply change the environment the addon runs in to not allow this functionality. This is not the case with the farming setups we're discussing here.


I'll be withdrawing from this thread too since I do not like the direction it is heading...