Unethical Gameplay?

[MiRai]

"no one" plays with sound enabled on all the slaves when they play. I only have sounds enabled on my main character window. I can also hear the sounds when i tab out from that window or when its not in focus. So its basically impossible to hear any incoming /whisper sounds coming from the slaves if a GM contacts one of them.

If you were tabbed out of the game, then you're AFK and you aren't going to be bot-checked unless they have a good reason. It's not like GMs just do spot checks on random players to see if they're automating gameplay in any way.

And as i said, the jamba whisper forwarder only works seldomly.

It was explained to you before that JAMBA cannot forward any GM whispers. The entire frame is protected, which means user add-ons cannot access it or make any changes to it.

The game has a ingame slider for render grafics.
The game is already pretty demanding and it will get worse in BFA, supposedly.
Have any tried to have the render scale on 50% and with lowest possible settings ingame AND that the slavewindow is like 5 x 4 cm "in real world" on a 24 inch monitor? Thats right, no chance to see any "bot checks" on that window when you do a stationary farm.

The render scale option does not affect the user interface, which means all frames, text, buttons, artwork, etc. are all rendered at 100%, regardless of the render scale setting.

One would imagine its in Blizzard interest to keep us subscribed.
How hard could it be to actually atleast contact the "main" window, the one you lead from, the one you told them is your "main", to conform if you actually are there or not.
It would be interesting to know how much time you actually have to respond to a "bot check", before you get banned.

I don't think there's a time limit, as there are plenty of other assumed checks that you would fail if your character was doing something and you weren't responding.

Why would a GM do a bot check on a character that is just hanging out? If your character is standing around doing nothing and you look like you're AFK, then you're not going to be bot checked. I wouldn't doubt that the idle time of your character is visible to GMs if they want it to be, since that information has to be known by the server before it automatically sets you AFK.

I don't doubt that a GM in World of Warcraft would give multiboxers the benefit of the doubt, and simply message the leader. In other games, I've heard of GMs sending whispers to other characters in the party, and people "failing" the bot check because of that. It's not hard to believe that a GM that has never dealt with a multiboxer before might make the mistake of messaging a follower, but that doesn't mean that it would be upheld.

Random example, the one MiRai did in his video>
Imagine you are smelting 7000 ores on each, you got 20 accounts.
You ofcourse just choose smelt all and go afk. You know that you will auto logoff in around 30 min, so you set your watch for 25 min.
A Gm contacts you because someone reported you around 2 min after you went afk irl.
You do not respond... you get banned.
In this example i dont think you should be banned.

First, why would anyone ever be reported for smelting? Second, why would a GM completely ignore the fact that you can smelt bars and be AFK? Since, as it's been pointed out, that feature is built right into the profession UI.

Again, receiving a whisper and not responding does not result in a ban.

I just gave an example. its also a stationary "farm" so to speak. Ive not tried to smelt bars myself ingame.

I would not consider smelting bars to be a stationary farm.

If i were a auction house hero focusing on smelting cheap ores to sell bars, i would most definitly not be sitting in front on my pc all the time while smelting all day long. I would run insane. It even have a feature to smelt all bars non stop. I guess its a perk.

But who knows, if you arent there, you went afk, and you got reported for cheating, maybe its possible to get banned.
i mean, its also possible that you arent able to see the GM popup on "toon nr 15", if its a very small window.
Even if you actually sat right there in front of the computer engaged in a movie on monitor nr 5.

I guess if there was a timelimit you got to respond to a GM, i guess it should be atleast within 25 min.

Now its your turn to explain why i maybe shouldnt have given this as an example.

You'd have to be in front of your computer to move your character(s) between the auctioneer, the mailbox, and a forge to smelt bars at. Even if you used a portable mailbox and thermal anvil, you'd still have to click through a bunch of frames and options in the UI. Also, how could you be AFK from your computer and buy ore from the auctioneer?

I do not understand this example.


I think what needs to be understood is that you need to be reported multiple times before a GM will come and do an in-game check on you. If a few uneducated haters want to report you for lolcheating, it's unlikely that a GM is going to show up until there are more reports. You also aren't going to get bot-checked when you're AFK—Blizzard would do a check to the player that actually makes sense.

Finally, GMs aren't assholes, and it's not their job to seek and destroy every player who might be playing in "the gray area." I already quoted Blizzard stating that they take care when looking into an actual report, and they try to make sure they're doing the right thing when actually handing out a ban. Please stop whittling the entire bot-check process down into one simple whisper.