Cannot figure out how to get follow and assist to work in inner space / ISboxer...

[Riiker]

Ok. We are gonna need to do some troubleshooting/ debugging here. What I want you to do is reset all of your ingame key bindings to default for targeting and movement. Then set follow = (tilde) and target my target = F6. Load up and group your characters. Make sure that neither character has a target selected (press ESC for each one). Then when you press your ISBoxer hokey for Follow Me, I want to know who character slot 2 selects when slot 1 is the main and then repeat the process when slot 2 is main. I have a feeling that this is where the problem is.

[Malgor]

I'll get on this Monday - I work tonight all night and Sunday night all night. Thanks for working through this - I'll post my results then.

[Riiker]

Sounds good. It's just crummy that you spent the money on a second account and can't really use it yet.

[Malgor]

Okay.

I reloaded your set up with ISBoxer and imported it to Inner Space.

I reset my key bindings to default.

I set Follow Target to ~ (actually ` which is the non-shift ~)

I set my Acquire Target of Target to F6.

Now when I hit ` I select my other character and follow them. Works when I am in either window with F1 and F2 off (mouse repeater and keyboard repeater). That's perfect.

However when I hit F6 with a target selected it says on my main window, "Your target has no target" meaning the NPC I've targeted has no target. My other character on my other screen does nothing. He still has me targeted because I hit ` first which is follow (and I assume target character #2).

So half working. Though after I played around with it for a bit, ` no longer targeted the other character nor followed them until I exported ISBoxer again to Inner Space. Weird.

It's 7:30am my time now and I just got home from work a bit ago so need to get some sleep. I'll wait to hear what you think might be my problem.

Thanks again for working me through this!

Malgor

[Apps]

That's because... looking at the previous setup, F6 is only being used for Acquire Targets Target. The games keybinds arent smart like ISBoxer. The setup isnt right. You cant target a mob, then press F6. The mob isnt targeting anything.

You need to specifically tell ISBoxer which key maps you want active when you swap windows.

You also need to specify a Target of Target AFTER you do the Target Me function.


Meaning you should NOT have a hot key for Acquire Targets Target in ISBoxer, and you should NOT have a hot key for Target Me.

I'll write that again... you should NOT have a hot key for Acquire Targets Target in ISBoxer... so unless you are turning off all your hot key, key maps, and then pressing the key bind.. its just simply not going to work right when you press it.



the correct way of doing it would be to use those mapped keys as a director for a specific mapped key which you send to your game window. NOT the other way around.

(Without actually seeing your setup), Id suspect that, you are likely still using the "all w/ current", and you arent turning off the key map of the other toon when you swap windows.

I reloaded your set up with ISBoxer and imported it to Inner Space.

Who is the "your" which you're referring to?

[Riiker]

Apps, I'm the "your" that he was referring to. I have a working 2 & 4 man setup that originally was based off your guide, but now has been modified to use variable keystrokes.

I'm starting to think that using variable keystrokes is adding a layer of complexity that is possibly clouding the real issue.

I think I'm going to make another setup for him based on your guide and troubleshoot from there.

I have a feeling that the problem is an inconsistency of ingame key binds between characters. Another possibility is an outdated version of inner space or ISBoxer based on the comment that without changing anything the setup stopped working then all he had to do was reexport.

Oddly enough I'm at the hospital right now... just had my first baby 3 days ago! I'm not going to have a bunch of time to help malgor out.

[Apps]

Apps, I'm the "your" that he was referring to. I have a working 2 & 4 man setup that originally was based off your guide, but now has been modified to use variable keystrokes.

I'm starting to think that using variable keystrokes is adding a layer of complexity that is possibly clouding the real issue.

I think I'm going to make another setup for him based on your guide and troubleshoot from there.

I have a feeling that the problem is an inconsistency of ingame key binds between characters. Another possibility is an outdated version of inner space or ISBoxer based on the comment that without changing anything the setup stopped working then all he had to do was reexport.

Oddly enough I'm at the hospital right now... just had my first baby 3 days ago! I'm not going to have a bunch of time to help malgor out.

DUDE! congratulations! I too am a newly recent father again. I am seriously pleased for you.



Several of us tried out the variable keystroke options. Yes they work. however, just like you are finding out, we can accomplish the same thing with less effort. My suspicion is, Malgor has his "Control" methods out of wack, and or in addition to game keybinds not appropriately synced with ISBoxer. From looking at it, I think Malgor needs to stop, delete all, and start fresh... Build a new profile from hand. Control, Toon A, Toon B. .. then populate his mapped keys, and reset to default in game keybinds, and only alter the 3-4 he needs. His re-export may not actually work. Exporting takes into account, things like keybinds in game and the main file for ISBoxer. I believe its no shock to know that if a person can import someone else .XML file, locate all appropriate discrepancies, change them all, and re-export... that person should be able to build a basic file on their own.

What I attempt to do, is provide enough assistance to get a basic understanding of the software, and how its built, then operates. After that, the user can then expand and grow with it.

Grats on the baby! hope he or she is health, fat, quiet, and going home soon.

Apps.

[Riiker]

Malgor,

*edit - completely agree with apps post above. That is probably the best option. Go read the guide that he posted above. It's what I used to make my setup anyway. But if you decide not to I've listed some things below to check.

I think the way forward is recheck your ingame key binds are all default with the exception of follow and target my target. Also, make sure you have the latest version of Innerspace and ISBoxer.

Once you've done that, from your main press the "follow me" hot key to make the alt target you and then follow. From your main, target an NPC. Now switch to the alt and press F6 to make him target your target (make sure that F6 is not used as a hotkey in ISBoxer first). The alt should target the NPC. If he doesn't, recheck to make sure the alt is currently targeting the main who is targeting an NPC. If that checked out, reverify your keybind in game for target of target (should be F6). Hopefully, that all works and we can recheck your ISBoxer setup.

Im going to try and make a new setup for you tonight, but like I said above... I've got some other things going on right now. I completely agree with apps... stay away from modifiers like shift, ctrl, and alt until we get this working.

Apps, thanks man! It's kinda wild.

[Malgor]

Congratulations, Riiker on the new baby! Always very excited for those having new babies!

Congratulations to you too, Apps for adding to your brood as well!



Now - I'm awake. It's 3pm my time (West coast in USA) and I'm not sure what you want me to do. Completely start fresh and make a new XML ISBoxer set up myself or keep the current one you made me and work within that.

I'll just wait on a response. I can do it either way. One problem is when I originally wrote my ISBoxer set up for WoW I thought I understood what things did, now I seem hazy on it. Could be old age! Also of course WoW is easier due to macros that you simply linked to keys. One button for follow, one button to make a two step rotation of spells work.

[Malgor]

Upon further checking. I did not have the latest version of ISBoxer. I do now.

` still works to target my main window character and follow him after I imported from ISBoxer the set up Riiker sent me.
When I target a target on my main window and press F6 it says "Target has no target" on my main window and nothing happens on my second window. When I click to my second window while my first window has a target and my second window has my first window character selected and hit F6 he does acquire the target my first window has as a target. So it appears the F6 key works, but only in the current window. In ISBoxer it shows that Acquire Targets Target is supposed to be All w/o current, but that seems to not be happening.