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    Quote Originally Posted by recitative View Post
    Set up the Mouserover Key
    - Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it Mouseover (or whatever you want).
    - Set it to "pressed OR released" and add a second step.
    - In Step 1 disable the Assist and DPS keys for your Slave and in Step 2 enable them again. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.
    - In Step 1 also enable your Mouse# keys and in Step 2 disable them. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.

    I'm new to this. Please explain the meaning in disabling Assist and DPS keys?


    I still don't understand this. Select which key? where do you select the key? Anyway you can provide a step by step with image tutorial from the start. I feel like I have too many key maps or they are not set up correctly.
    The point of this Mouserover Key is to enable the healing keys and disable whatever keys you use to Assist and DPS while mousing over the Party Frame (the Clickbar), and then disable the healing keys and enable the Assist and DPS keys again when you remove the mouse from that area.

    So you need to create the Mouseover key as instructed above.
    Then create two steps in this key and in Step 1 right-click on Actions, choose Keymap Actions and then either New Key Map State Action or New Mapped Key State Action (depending on if you want to disable an entire keymap or just an individual mapped key).
    Then choose your assist and dps keys here and set the state to OFF (if you choose individual mapped keys, you need to do this for all the keys as you can only change the state of one key at a time).
    Do the exact same thing for your Heal keys, but set them to ON.
    Now in Step 2 repeat the above process but set the Assist & DPS keys to ON and the Heal keys to OFF.

    And again, when I say the "Assist & DPS keys" I mean whatever keys you have configured yourself in ISBoxer to assist and do your dps with, and the 'Mouse#' keys are the Mouse Healing keys you set up in this guide.
    Actually now that I think of it I don't think you create the "Mouse#" keys until further down in the guide, maybe that's the cause for the confusion? I apologize for that.

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    EDIT:
    New Set Target System guide.
    Last edited by chazz : 01-31-2012 at 07:43 PM

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    Love the tutorial, and it all sounds great to me... in theory.

    I'm sure I'm missing something, though. I can get everything set up, and it all works great (using the original method), except that my heal doesn't kick off on mouse up. I feel like I'm really close to getting this to work for my four-man group, but I can't for the life of me get the heal to go off, and I'm yanking my hair out trying to figure out why not. Targetting on my healer slave is working great, but then... nothing.

    I'll admit I'm a bit of an ISBoxer noob, though I think I do all right with it. I think I've seen references to a debugging mode, but haven't been able to find one. Is there a way I can figure out what's actually happening when I let go of my mouse button?

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    IMTrick:
    As far as "debugging mode" goes I would advise you to contact Lax, as I cannot answer that myself.
    Otherwise it would be helpful if you could provide a bit more information regarding your issue and I can try to help you out.

    Are you talking about the "Mouse1 Healing Key" that you are using on "Left Click" with your Click Bar? If so, make sure that this key has "pressed OR released" checked so that it triggers Step 1 on Mouse"down" and Step 2 on Mouse"up".
    Also something I sometimes do for "manual debugging" when something seems to be wrong is to insert a Pop-Up text message in my keys to see if they fire off at all, or if a certain step fires off as it should etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazz View Post
    Are you talking about the "Mouse1 Healing Key" that you are using on "Left Click" with your Click Bar? If so, make sure that this key has "pressed OR released" checked so that it triggers Step 1 on Mouse"down" and Step 2 on Mouse"up".
    Also something I sometimes do for "manual debugging" when something seems to be wrong is to insert a Pop-Up text message in my keys to see if they fire off at all, or if a certain step fires off as it should etc.
    Thanks... not sure which step isn't firing, though I do have my Mouse 1 Healing key set to "Pressed or Released."

    The pop-up thing is a great tip, though. I'll give that a shot. I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious, and that may just me enough to point me at where I've screwed it up.

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    I have the same problem sometimes. But it also works sometimes. Currently it is very random to me, I cant find a pattern to analyze what I am doing wrong. I will also try with the popup text to get more information.
    What I noted is that I am often able to click through the click bar. So my main is actually targetting the group members. Of course in that case the heal is not casted and also the repeater region not loaded again.

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    Chazz,

    K, first. Excellent info there. Its taken me a little bit to get my head wrapped around whats going on there. So I got a couple questions.

    1. How does this differ / is better than negating the use of the repeater region completely, and just using the clickbars coupled with the "Target Me" and a particular mapped key for the healer on an aux action bar?

    (Reason being, the Mosg/Apps method for healing.. which we stole from Remanz...hehe... works flawlessly. Instant window swaps to handle a toon specific emergency or movement, with synced bars, still allows for the same heal setup from any window) Could we not also use another method of click targeting and click healing by the way of a video feed from each toon, to each toon, saved as Auto within the setup screen, interdependent for each, and a simple clickbar or bar(s) for each to "click through" heal?

    2. If we're currently using a click to heal method, have you tried a multi key from mouse for healing? I.e. both left and right mouse buttons for shielding? Or would the driving toon move forward too much? would we have to disable mouse movement on the lead window? (this seems a bit more cumbersome now that I put it in writing.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog78 View Post
    What I noted is that I am often able to click through the click bar. So my main is actually targetting the group members. Of course in that case the heal is not casted and also the repeater region not loaded again.
    Yep, that was exactly what I was running into... The click bar wasn't getting clicked. After screwing around a bit in the console and saving/re-exporting/yelling at the click bar and repeater area a few times, it's working great now.

    Oh, man, is this easier than how I was doing healing before. I'm a happy boxer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMTrick View Post
    Yep, that was exactly what I was running into... The click bar wasn't getting clicked. After screwing around a bit in the console and saving/re-exporting/yelling at the click bar and repeater area a few times, it's working great now.

    Oh, man, is this easier than how I was doing healing before. I'm a happy boxer.
    If you start a 2nd team you might run into the issue again. I had it perfectly working until I switched to my 2nd team. But maybe your setup is more stable than mine.
    What I have now is F1-F4 to do the healing. for me it is also easier than having to move the mouse pointer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apps View Post
    Chazz,

    K, first. Excellent info there. Its taken me a little bit to get my head wrapped around whats going on there. So I got a couple questions.

    1. How does this differ / is better than negating the use of the repeater region completely, and just using the clickbars coupled with the "Target Me" and a particular mapped key for the healer on an aux action bar?

    (Reason being, the Mosg/Apps method for healing.. which we stole from Remanz...hehe... works flawlessly. Instant window swaps to handle a toon specific emergency or movement, with synced bars, still allows for the same heal setup from any window) Could we not also use another method of click targeting and click healing by the way of a video feed from each toon, to each toon, saved as Auto within the setup screen, interdependent for each, and a simple clickbar or bar(s) for each to "click through" heal?

    2. If we're currently using a click to heal method, have you tried a multi key from mouse for healing? I.e. both left and right mouse buttons for shielding? Or would the driving toon move forward too much? would we have to disable mouse movement on the lead window? (this seems a bit more cumbersome now that I put it in writing.)
    The difference between using this and just using Click Bars is that you can target and heal by clicking the actual Player Portraits in the Party Frame rather than a Click Bar placed next to it, which at least to me is more intuitive and doesn't clutter my UI with unnecessary graphics. However using Click Bars will give you an extra Mouse Button. I used Click Bars to heal my companions when I was dual-boxing and VideoFX to display their healthbars beneath them.
    As for your second question I have not tried that, as far as I know it isn't even supported in ISBoxer?


    Quote Originally Posted by IMTrick View Post
    Yep, that was exactly what I was running into... The click bar wasn't getting clicked. After screwing around a bit in the console and saving/re-exporting/yelling at the click bar and repeater area a few times, it's working great now.

    Oh, man, is this easier than how I was doing healing before. I'm a happy boxer.
    Glad it worked out for you.
    Regarding the issue you and Balrog78 seemed to have; I have never experienced that myself. But I haven't played my team with a healer in it for a few weeks now, so maybe it's a bug that has snuck in through an update of ISBoxer or something.

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