Paladin + 4 Shammys OR 5 Shammy's

[Vyndree]

Of course I read them. I look for things like "I've searched everywhere and can't find an answer to my unique (or at least hard to find) question".

I can and will look at them to see if there's a unique question from a person who has already done their homework or has at least tried their best to find out themselves.

As far as I know, no other 1x paladin/4x shaman group (or 5x shaman group for that matter, since I have both) has gotten as far as I have. Would you like me to censor this knowledge because some people are overly sensitive?

And, as suggested, I'll quit posting -- clearly people think that asking a question and getting an appropriate answer is not the hand holding they wanted.

I'm perfectly willing to stand aside for the sensitive folks on the forum when asked. Enjoy your thread.

Don't direct any posts to me if you'd like me to stand by that statement. If there's nothing else specifically directed to me, I'm leaving this thread alone.

[Dezeral]

RE: your comp - wait until wow's done downloading, copy the directory 4 times (need wow in separate dirs if you want to run them at the same time), and see how it goes.

You do not need to have separate directories to run multiple WoWs. You can run 5 copies of WoW from one directory. If you want to have different video detail settings on your main versus your alts, then having separate directories is useful. There are other reasons to have separate directories, but as I said, it is not required. In fact, if you run multiple copies from the same directory, you will find that you zone/load faster (assuming that you have a newer hard drive with a decent sized cache).

[IWestyI]

Those threads you listed, i only looked at the top 3, and i still couldnt find my answer.
I know that a pally and 4 shammys will be better for instances, (Or i guess anyway), what im asking is can you achieve the same as you can with 5 shammys, as i have only seen 3/4 heroics ever done with 5 shammys, but i havent yet had chance to find a video with paladin and shammys.

I could read every single post on every single thread untill i find a specific answer to my question, but i live a busy life and dont have that much time

[Eteocles]

Bottom line I think is it comes down to what you're more comfortable with...complicated tanking/dpsing/healing with a pala/4sham, or kiting ALOT + learning every totem-related trick(earth eles, stoneclaw, staggering Earthbind totems) to let you kill while running. The latter will take time as you may have to sit for 20mins waiting on your earth totem cooldowns before the next attempt(I believe Ellay or Vyndree one mentioned having to do so for on of their vids, I can't keep track of who is which lol); the former may not take as long but it's alot more micromanagement + class AND spec diversity as you'd probably need a resto to keep him up in the harder instances + mana tide to give him the mana to tank and yourself the mana to heal lol

[Boylston]

Those threads you listed, i only looked at the top 3, and i still couldnt find my answer.

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I could read every single post on every single thread untill i find a specific answer to my question, but i live a busy life and dont have that much time

Ok, seriously... Vyndree was incredibly helpful by hand-picking some great references for you and you "only looked at top 3" before giving up and wanting us to spell something out for you in this post. What you want, quite frankly, is still a little confusing. Those threads plus the feedback in this one should have answered what you were asking for originally.


Tank+4xShamans will be better for PvE content by yourself, especially heroics. Paladin makes a great Tank choice because its AoE threat capability matches the Shaman pros/cons of no CC and good AoE capability.

5xShamans is better for world PvP and BGs, since you have another chunk of ranged damage capability. This same makeup can do well in instances, but it requires special tactics, better gear, heavy use of elementals (on cooldowns), and has not been proven to be able to consistently and/or safely tackle the same content as the Pally+4xShammy combo. There is some content you can do as easily (maybe even better) with 5xShaman, but there are a larger number of PvE situations where the tanking class is invaluable.

4xShamans + A healer friend is a great combo for 5v5 arena. Either setup can be altered to produce this, however.

[elo]

zomg...

"Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who... this is supposed to be a HAPPY occaision!"

Let's all meet in game, drop 100 totems and have a party.

BTW - I'm rolling 5 Fury Warriors, pwnage

[IWestyI]

Those threads you listed, i only looked at the top 3, and i still couldnt find my answer.

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I could read every single post on every single thread untill i find a specific answer to my question, but i live a busy life and dont have that much time

Ok, seriously... Vyndree was incredibly helpful by hand-picking some great references for you and you "only looked at top 3" before giving up and wanting us to spell something out for you in this post. What you want, quite frankly, is still a little confusing. Those threads plus the feedback in this one should have answered what you were asking for originally.

I never said i gave up, like i said my life is quite busy, especially now. I dont have time to go through all of those threads reading every single post. Since i started this thread i have had to finish two a level physics peices of work, make my self and my 2 cousins some dinner, walk the dog and put both those cousins to bed. But still my question is simple, yet no one has specificly answered it.

Can you ACHEIVE the same with 5 shammans as you can with one paladin tank and 4 shamans, not how easy/hard it is, but can you do the same heroics with 5 shammans as you can with 1 paladin + 4 shammans, or is there some heroics that are to hard for 5 shammys but paladin and shammys can handle?

[BobGnarly]

I never said i gave up, like i said my life is quite busy, especially now. I dont have time to go through all of those threads reading every single post. Since i started this thread i have had to finish two a level physics peices of work, make my self and my 2 cousins some dinner, walk the dog and put both those cousins to bed. But still my question is simple, yet no one has specificly answered it.

Can you ACHEIVE the same with 5 shammans as you can with one paladin tank and 4 shamans, not how easy/hard it is, but can you do the same heroics with 5 shammans as you can with 1 paladin + 4 shammans, or is there some heroics that are to hard for 5 shammys but paladin and shammys can handle?

I've answered your (constantly changing) question twice myself, not counting the other attempts to help you, but I guess you were probably too busy cleaning out the garage to actually read the responses. One wonders when you could even attempt to play a game like WoW if you can't be bothered to take the time to read a few posts about it (btw i read every one, took about 5 minutes).

No matter, I tried to be helpful even though your question is a dead horse, but I think I'm switching sides now. Use the search feature.

[Bollwerk]

Can you ACHIEVE the same with 5 shamans that you can with one paladin tank and 4 shamans? i.e. not how easy/hard it is, but can you do the same heroics with 5 shamans as you can with 1 paladin + 4 shamans, or are there some heroics that are to hard for 5 shamans but paladin and shamans can handle?

No, most heroics you will not be able to do without a tank.

[Boylston]

The answer to your question is: NOPE.

I dont have time to go through all of those threads reading every single post. Since i started this thread i have had to finish two a level physics peices of work, make my self and my 2 cousins some dinner, walk the dog and put both those cousins to bed.

To be honest, it sounds like a multi-boxing hobby is going to be something you will not be able to dedicate much time to anyhow. If you do not have time to read a few threads, I hesitate to see how you could put in the time investment required to create/refine/tweak the macros and WoW-client setup necessary to successfully multibox well.

Ask myself, or Fursphere, or Vyndree, or any one of the other multiboxers with some experience how much time they have invested in getting their software/hardware/macro/addon pieces of the equation to work.... It's orders of magnitude more than you appear willing to spend to find out basic answers when there are both 1.) easy-to-use search options and 2.) clearly laid out links to follow provided by a respected community member.