25 boxing, what computer is needed?

[HPAVC]

Its an interesting thought experiment, but I encourage you to Safety Dance a few times with just your 5 box rig now and get the feel for how this isn't a hardware issue at all. Just replicate a simple 5box setup and your done.

You might also preface these questions as thought experiments or what not.

[Lpwned]

Why do you recommend DDR3 1600? What's wrong with 1066, which is exactly at what i7's are rated to run at?

1066 is with a locked multiplier. It is not the fastest that an I7 can handle.

I disagree that a system could not be built to handle 25 wow windows looking forward. The SB EX will support 8 cores (16 threads) and 4 sockets (64 threads) with a memory limit in the terabytes.

I do however agree that such a system would be massively inefficient on the cost side.

[Trushot]

1066 is with a locked multiplier. It is not the fastest that an I7 can handle.

I disagree that a system could not be built to handle 25 wow windows looking forward. The SB EX will support 8 cores (16 threads) and 4 sockets (64 threads) with a memory limit in the terabytes.

I do however agree that such a system would be massively inefficient on the cost side.

im a little slow on pc knowledge sometimes ... are you saying basically if you do not plan to Overclock there is no need to buy more than 1066 ram for a 6 core i7 chip ?

i was looking at 1600 becuase the MB i was looking at supported 1600 without overclocking ... but didnt realize I7 chip limited it by default to less than that ?

am i reading what yall are saying correctly that any ram over 1066 is a waste with an I7 chip even if MB states it can go up to 1600 wthout Overclocking

[Lpwned]

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are you saying basically if you do not plan to Overclock there is no need to buy more than 1066 ram for a 6 core i7 chip ?

Let me double check this with some colleagues. Its gets really complicated as the Front Side Buss is no more. Processors are moving to a new architecture.
Any of the I7s can be over clocked if you know how to. The 6 core just makes it nice and easy to do. Intel knows that if you are dropping that much on a CPU, chances are you have some crazy thermal solution, and will OC it.

So I just talked this over with a coworker. The 6 core uses a QPI, the rest still use FSB. They will likely all default to 1066, but changing them to 1600 is easy and does NOT require you to OC anything else or have an aftermarket thermal solution.

[F9thRet]

I would get a strained neck trying to box 25.

5 is comfortable right now, and if pressed, I can go as high as 11-13 across 3 pc's.

For 25, I would not settle for anything less then this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000

just watch the doors if you leave your house.

Seriously, listen to what these guys have to say, and get a good feel for things at a lower pace of things man. you will get more enjoyment out of it , then trying to bump up to 25 right off.

Later on, make the move. It's something I would like to see, as I only know of a few peeps who box with that many toons at once.

Stephen

[Sam DeathWalker]

People will buy RAM with a little bit of a higher clock so the
chips aren't running at 100% speed all the time

Ya thats the only reason to get them.

I underclock my ram to 667 even though they are 800 rated (amd ddr2). Ram speed is nothing imo for wow. Once it gets to system ram you are cool.

[Lpwned]

So it seems I have been confusing the QPI with the Uncore. My understanding is still that an I7 can run at 1600 though. For an application like this memory bandwidth would be a huge factor (I think this thread has been hijacked into a theory craft though :P)