Mosg2's DK Manifesto

[JackBurton]

What is your PVE stragegey for Trash and Bosses?

My Trash Strategy

2 Mobs
Death Grip most dangerous one, Most of the time thats the caster. If you Grip from max range It should be almost dead before the next one arrives. Use RangeDisplay to determine your range. I like range display better than any other range addon to date. because you can place the range to target anywhere on the screen. I place my range just below my toons feet.
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...e-display.aspx

3 Mobs
I PW:Shield my team while en route to next bunch. I get two free hits on the enemy before im on them with two howling blasts. I Death Grip ranged in close and wait for most mobs to bunch up on me. I CC everything and effectively silence casters with Hungering cold. The intial salvo of howling blasts makes taking them out one by one much faster. I take out most dangerous targets first following each kill or two with another Hungering Cold. If faced with 4 or more mobs at the start lay DnD and PW:B and use HB based rotation. When fighting 3 ore more mobs to me its more important to PW:Shield all my toons than to get to soften up targets with HB while running to target. Its important to target the caster before you Hungering Cold them because your DK's will be wailing on whatever target you last had most of the time.

4+ Mobs
I PW:Shield my team while en route to next bunch. I get two free hits on the enemy before im on them with two howling blasts. I Death Grip ranged in close and wait for most mobs to bunch up on me. I CC everything and effectively silence casters with Hungering cold. Lay DnD and PW:B and use HB based rotation. Positioning is everything. When grabbing multible groups for AoE use Hungering Cold liberaly. This gives you breathing room to get the mobs into a nice ball.

[ashlor]

Priest is viable for bgs, but bubble makes the paladin a bad target... in arena if you do not run with a paladin or something with a lot of cooldowns to keep them self alive then you're fucked. You get pain suppression + power word: barrier basically as an o-shit.

I just rafed a priest and wasted some time, but it's fine.

yeah I probably should have been a little more specific on that, I can see the priest as the more suitable healer but, I don't have one or raf atm so I have stuck with the pallie for the time being, but I was more interested in the macros he uses currently and what he will be using in the future for the priest. =)

[Boylston]

I ran 4xBlood plus my priest in a few instances last night. I didn't glyph anything, since I was a little lazy, and it was still Faceroll time through the instance. Huge difference. Killing speed was a bit slower on trash, but it was completely safe. Glyphed Rune Tap would be even more healing...

I think the way to go may be to just flip flop back and forth between frost and blood depending on difficulty of the boss/fight.

[Shodokan]

yeah I probably should have been a little more specific on that, I can see the priest as the more suitable healer but, I don't have one or raf atm so I have stuck with the pallie for the time being, but I was more interested in the macros he uses currently and what he will be using in the future for the priest. =)

i think you mistook what i said. I leveled a priest and i wasted my time doing so as i'm back to playing paladin.

[Slats]

So you levelled up a Priest and did some Arenas with it and decided the Paladin 'bubble while I mash heals and my DPS keys' works alot better in this shock and awe style setup?

I guess I'm not too biased either way as I dont have too much experience either way. I'm collecting Honor Gear on my Paladin while i level up my Priest + 4 DK's.

[Shodokan]

So you levelled up a Priest and did some Arenas with it and decided the Paladin 'bubble while I mash heals and my DPS keys' works alot better in this shock and awe style setup?

I guess I'm not too biased either way as I dont have too much experience either way. I'm collecting Honor Gear on my Paladin while i level up my Priest + 4 DK's.

Priest has less ways to stay alive than a paladin and is less mana efficient... plain and simple. The pre-emptive healing is nice, and penance is nice... but ultimately their survivability when being focused is less than a paladin.

[Kromtor]

i was thinking druid at first just cause for some reason they're harder for me to kill in 5's than pallies, but im leveling my pally again now that they're gonna nerf bear juv.

[Noids]

Priest has less ways to stay alive than a paladin and is less mana efficient... plain and simple. The pre-emptive healing is nice, and penance is nice... but ultimately their survivability when being focused is less than a paladin.

Are you actually doing arenas with both though? I am levelling my team with 4DKs and a priest currently with my pally going solo slightly behind. I am actually running the priest in holy mode for super PoHs with chakra up. I find the survivability is decent at lvl 83-84 and the instants that priests have make for a much more mobile healer IMO which is a plus for this team. When I actually do die, spirit of redemption also makes for some awesome PoH spam for about 15 seconds while glyphed which generally lets the DKs mop up another 5 or so players with ease.

If Shodo isn't, is anyone actually using a Priest + 4DK setup in arenas or rated BGs at 85?

[genghiskhan]

Ive read strong cases for using either a paladin or shaman healer, but why not just go 5x frost dks? Wouldnt that make this comp even more powerful? Or would the extra dps etc. not make up for the lack of a dedicated healer?

[Boylston]

Priest has less ways to stay alive than a paladin and is less mana efficient... plain and simple. The pre-emptive healing is nice, and penance is nice... but ultimately their survivability when being focused is less than a paladin.

If you go Priest in arena, you must go holy... You get a LONG time of totally free, totally uninterruptible heals if they kill you.