Boxing Rating BGs... gonna do it?

[Ualaa]

With AB.. from the Blacksmith you're very close to both Farm and Stables.
It's not that far to go, to lend support.
In pug vs pug PvP, it isn't that hard to hold/support two of these with five toons.

Two boxers could take Farm and Stables, and jointly support Blacksmith as required.
Three boxers could attempt to hold all three, lending support as necessary.

It comes down to, can you hold your base with a team of five.
Or possibly with a team of four, plus a single boxed support healer.
Against an equal or larger group?
Because they can send 2 against Farm, 2 against Stables and 10 against Blacksmith.

Possibly set your DPS to follow and assist your Focus, if the Focus exists and is friendly?
That way, you could spam your DPS key, and leave 1-2 toons with a solo toon, while taking the rest of your team elsewhere.
Got the idea of the support, from a recent two 5-boxers in a 10-man raid thread.

[Sam DeathWalker]

If I understand correctly I will be able to set up a raid with my guys (10 or 15 or 25) and just enter by myself. I know Ill get hammered but 25X times the exp (I mean for the time it takes a solo player to get X exp on one toon (for a loose) Ill get the same X on 25 toons lol .... )

And I dont have to listen to others whining about this or that.

Sounds to good to be true. Just have to last awhile actually if there is a 25 man AV and I just turtle it will drag the game out a long time and Ill get a lot of honor even with a lose if I can kill enough of the enemy, which really won't be hard while sitting in the base. In fact it might even be possible to hold one tower, maybe not though.

Is there any way to take out the boss with all towers up, with 25 guys going into the battle?

A stong tank, 4 restro shaman healing and 20 aoe dps? Does CC work on the tower guys? Sheep or Hex?

In IOC can you breach a wall without a machine? With just player dps? I think you can get close enough to be under where the turent guns can't hit you. Are you able to make the bombs with an engineer 450 prior to the battle to take out walls? Also, as horde you can get something from the docks I think and place it so it cant be hit but can hit the west wall I think, migth be possible to take just one machine and breach that way, then with focus fire ....

Or Ill just get completly hammered but still walk away wiht a ton of exp and honor, comparitivly.


If you have a rogue can you clearly see other rogues, with that rogue? Whats the best defense to a rogue sapping one guy at a time, I know I got shut down one AV because of it.

[Ualaa]

It looks like they have removed 25-man rated battlegrounds.
But you could certainly run 25-man normal AV's.

You receive experience, at the points where you would receive honor for achieving objectives.
So maximum experience will be achieved by completing the most objectives, along with the win.

If you wanted repeated losses, but maximum losing honor...
Probably ensure you take out Galv/Belinda in each game.
And that you take/hold-until-burnt two towers/bunkers.

AV seems to be a zerg to the end now.
So, three objectives should complete shortly before winning/losing.
If the other team does not actively defend the general, a five box decently geared set of toons can handle the general and two guys up.

[Boylston]

Rated BGs and boxers will absolutely be possible. I think the keys are:

* Probably want to only bring 4, especially for a 10-man. WSG will likely continue to be very tough for a lot of setups.

* More than 1 boxer is going to be a problem. You simply need some good team support to be the most competitive.

* Our advantages of coordinated burst and movement will still be important and useful.

* You will need to have different strategies than many other team setups, which may turn out to be useful.

* Many teams, even good ones, will become fixated on "killing the boxer", which may allow your teammates to operate more effectively. Smart teams may only allocate one person to this task, which could be quite problemmatic. (One rogue CAN make life miserable).

* Good boxers will respond to these new challenges and adapt/overcome!!!

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well 15 is still ok .... , not as nice as 25 but still nice.

Is the queing going to change for normal AV's, I can make 5 groups of 5 and click on all 5 to enter the que at the same time but its still hit or miss if I can't que as a raid.

Ya I am sure I can take out bal and hold single towers untill burnning but question is how many until they kill my undefended general. But ya that seems the way to go, take out bal and as many towers as is possible.

[Ualaa]

Rated BG's, will require entering as a raid of the appropriate size.

Experience in a battleground, does not require the rated BG at all.

Not sure if you'll be able to enter say AV as a 25-man raid.
But if you can enter as a raid, that would be nice for you.

[Mokoi]

Sam, why would you even bother with rated BGs? You can only do 10 or 15 mans, and your team is not going to win any of them with any regularity by yourself. I haven't heard yet if you will even get any honor for rated BGs.. does anyone have info on that? you don't get any HKs in arenas, why would you in r-bgs?

Excellent plan, Agent Sam. You will be able to enter rated BGs without a hope of winning.. serving only to boost the alliance teams quickly and efficiently. We value your continued service.

=)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well exp would be good enough, even without honor.

I guess wait and see is the best course as ususal things are always changing.

Ya I guess ally would get the edge over me but hey I gots to get my guys up also. Its like 10 times more fun to exp with pvp vs. killing the same mobs for 1000th time. And of course only my rating would go down, I doubt I will lose enough games to give ally any real edge considering there are 12 million players.

[Alemi]

Ya I guess ally would get the edge over me but hey I gots to get my guys up also. Its like 10 times more fun to exp with pvp vs. killing the same mobs for 1000th time. And of course only my rating would go down, I doubt I will lose enough games to give ally any real edge considering there are 12 million players.

A. Rating only happens in rated bgs.
B. Rated bgs only happen at 85.
C. Level 85 is max level
D. Experience at 85... kind of pointless

[Littleburst]

A. Rating only happens in rated bgs.
B. Rated bgs only happen at 85.
C. Level 85 is max level
D. Experience at 85... kind of pointless

I bet it still makes sense to him.