I came to wow, from an everquest raiding background. I'm not saying raiding in wow is necessarily easy mode, but if there was a hard mode, everquest had it.

There were no addons where you could push a single button to cleanse the raid, and while this isn't the case with Decursive anymore, it was for more of the games life then not. Player's frames did not glow a given color when they had a debuff on them. You just had to pay attention to the game, notice when there was a debuff you could cure -- by the debuff icon -- in the 72 player raid.

There was nothing like Deadly Boss Mods or BigWigs saying, Fire phase now... or whatever. Yet people learnt, when the boss did a certain emote, the nasty shit was coming. The game took a lot more skill to play, and forced players to be observant and play as a team, much more so then wow.

I'm not saying EQ was the best game out there; I, like the majority of its player base, did make the move to warcraft. But certainly, the challenge level in EQ was far higher then its ever been in Warcraft. A move in that direction will be very much welcome.

I don't want to see it to the degree where to top 4-5 raiding guilds (per million gamers) can complete the current end-game zone of this expansion, while everyone else cannot beat the end-zone of the previous expansion despite the five extra levels. I don't want a game where 99.95% of the player base does not experience all of the raid content. I don't want to have an attunement process anything like Vex Thal (last major EQ raidzone I played through).

But more of a challenge is definitely welcome.

I'd rather have challenges, where I can overcome them myself or fail against them.... but be in control of the encounter, then be a single boxer and reliant on some idiot who cannot move out of puddles of death etc. If we need to go with mouse-over healing/decurses when needed and not drop a totem and forget about it, that makes the victory sweeter down the road. As with every expansion that has come out, we'll each look at it and decide if its fun, or if its not fun.

Boxers are very adaptable and resourceful. No matter what changes are thrown at us, we will adapt.