Quote Originally Posted by outdrsyguy1 View Post
I completely disagree about using SoC. Using it in arena at low to even medium gear levels is a mistake. You are going for burst damage, splash is irrelevant most times. Look at the judgement damage between the 2 spells, one crits in the 2.5k range and the other nearly 5k range. multiply that by 4 and you'll find that you will actually burst down targets significantly easier with righousness. SoC is great for bg's because people don't heal that much and there are swarms but arena's they will just step away and cc you or get healed. I'm not pro by any means and i've only just started focusing on arena's but i did manage to break 1400 last week with all 219 weaps (except one 232). If a healer is actively healing your target your not really going to be able to take them down before you lose a guy. Your not going to make them have to chose who to heal and then kill the other.
You guys have me flip-flopping. I think I will have to try out SoR some. One thing I dislike is that I use basically one spec on my Pallies for both PvE and PvP and I think this would force me into giving up Glyph of SoC, which is handy for PvE.

SoR benefits from the 5pt Holy talent Seals of the Pure (+15% dmg), but I don't think I can afford to spend points there...


A couple other random comments based off your post, outdrsyguy1:

Gearing: I bootstrapped myself with a couple PvE items, but I've basically been doing 344 arena points/week + honor farming to buy PvP gear ever since the first couple weeks passed. The pallies are all basically in 800-850 resilience range-- I have legs left to replace (some Savage Saronite or L200 PvE stuff on them, yuck!) with arena points next tuesday, a necklace slot to upgrade with honor, and then some L245 PvE rings to replace with PvP stuff after that.

I am pretty good about DSac+Bubble usage, and have to admit that it's very nice. I tend to worry in arena about whether I should do it in advance of the fight or once the fight begins. I am leaning towards trying to get the first one going before I engage.

I had a revelation last night that I hadn't been using Righteous Fury in PvP at all, even though the team is talented to get the 6% damage resistance. DOH!! Talk about fail... that's now fixed!

Since I'm horde, all my pallies are BElfs. I am re-writing some keybinds/macros so that I have better usage of this silence. It's an area I need to improve upon. My DK happens to be troll (I made him a long time ago), but I will probably be changing him to BElf as well so that the team is consistent and as small as possible. I'll probably have a keybind for the 4 pallies to rotate through casting silence and leave the DK's available for a mouse click. This doesn't consume a GCD, right?

I have a macroed /cast [target=arena1..4] Repentance on all pallies, but I am not sure that I am getting the best usage out of this. I am interleaving stuns in my default kill sequence, so basically my guys fire off stuns periodically as I start the DPS sequence. This may not be ideal, but it works for PvE well and it's one less thing to try to micro-manage for arena. I may pull 1-2 of the guys out of this rotation so that their stun stays available until mid-fight.

Considering blowing Hand of Freedom proactively at the beginning of a fight instead of waiting to get rooted/snared/etc. Would love to hear your thoughts on this...



Anyhow, a lot to do and the first few seconds of arena go by fast.