DK and Pally group questions

[Shodokan]

One more question When doing the 60-80 levelling grind.....do you level the DK in a tank spec collecting the tank gear....or level as DPS to make it quicker?

That is all up to you. You are playing 5 toons, anything you attack is going to die fast. If you want to do dungeons while leveling for whatever quests they have for you, or just to break up the grind then i suggest that you level your dk as a tank.

Lets face it, while leveling the DK is mainly all about death gripping things into range for your lolstorm to kill.

[Boylston]

My DK tank (team is now 75-77) has leveled as hybrid Frost/Blood (for the Icy Touch haste buff + blood 10% AP buff). I've done instances almost exclusively from 72 on, just to collect blue gear and fill in holes in questing (because I can't be bothered to do collection quests!).

His gear is quest rewards and the occasional +Def or "tank" item. I'm not worried about defense caps or other tank gear specialization until he hits L80 and is ready to start doing heroics. You don't need a great "tank set" from 60-80.

I plan on using full Savage Saronite set at L78 for all my team, including the DK. At 80, I will run him through instances on his own for a week or so until he has the tank gear necessary to have an easier time at heroic farming.

So... from 60-80, don't sweat it if you're not in the perfect tank gear or spec... You'll probably be just fine.

(Just don't forget Frost Presence!) :P

[ragawaga]

Well, I managed to get them to 60 on Saturday morning. After reading a post a while back on using Scholomance for boosting, I decided to give that a try. OMG I'm so glad I did. I'd never done it before on any of my characters, fortunately I have a blacksmith so was able to unlock the door to get into the instance. Was just a matter of clearing the 4 mobs in the first room, then I was able to leave the slaves there while I went through and cleared the instance. No eye of naxxramus to worry about. No wandering pats. No getting silenced when I've made a huge pull.

The only minor annoyance was to make sure to put loot on FFA when you kill the boss with the viewing room key as it seems that this is only available to the toon who's turn it was to loot.

So now I start the process of finishing off getting heirlooms. Oh that reminds me.....what's the general opinion on DKs using the 2H heirloom axe with crusader.....or just getting drops and using runeforging on them?

[Ualaa]

I was under the impression the Runeforging was a superior enchant to anything you can put on a weapon as an enchanter. Not absolutely positive on that.

I know Crusader has reduced returns beyond 60th level. Not sure at what point another enchant becomes better, but that's probably the top 1st to 60th level melee enchant.

[ragawaga]

It's not solely the enchant that I'm focusing on....it's more the

The heirloom would be the best weapon for me as the stats will constantly improve while levelling....and will also mean more gold from quest rewards. However the enchant is inferior to runeforging.

Or upgrade weapons as I go which won't have as good stats as the heirloom, but a better enchant.


As far as crusader above 60 goes....it's just that it's not as effective, it still works quite well from what I've been told.

[Ualaa]

Can you put Runeforging on the BoA weapon?

[ragawaga]

Can you put Runeforging on the BoA weapon?

No.

So the choice is the BoA 2H axe with crusader....
or
Drop/quest reward weapons which won't be as good....but will get a better enchant from runeforging.

Pro of heirloom is that it's great stats, levels with me, doesn't need repairs, will generate max gold from quests where the reward is weapons. Con would be that it doesn't take runeforging.

The opposite is true for taking non BoA weapon.

[Boylston]

BoA weapons are most useful when you are solo, in my opinion.

My DK+4xRet team is now Level 78-80, and they didn't use any BoA weapons, just quest rewards and Blue dungeon drops. I got 5 Ingvar's cleavers, 5 trollbanes, and 5 weapons from the Ring of Blood/Amphitheatre of Anguish quests.

I also went without BoA XP-boosting chests on 3 of the characters, which is why they ended up from 78-80.

Being able to utilize runeforging is a nice plus, but it honestly doesn't matter a whole lot. Get to L80 as efficiently as possible and then put in the time to properly gear them out...

[ragawaga]

BoA weapons are most useful when you are solo, in my opinion.

I agree.....when there's multiple toons, micro management of stats isn't quite so important. That said however, the theory I'm operating on is, the better the gear, the quicker the mobs will die and the quicker I'll level

I also went without BoA XP-boosting chests on 3 of the characters, which is why they ended up from 78-80.

Well, after last night, the 4 that will be getting levelled all now have the WG plate shoulders and the 40 badge plate chest.

Being able to utilize runeforging is a nice plus, but it honestly doesn't matter a whole lot. Get to L80 as efficiently as possible and then put in the time to properly gear them out...

The reason I've not started the team actually levelling yet is mostly due to the fact that my second monitor died. I'm finding it hard adjusting to having all of the windows on my remaining (albiet fairly large) monitor. So I'm doing the dull farming type activities at the moment in order to get them ready. There's also the fact that the paladins are mostly still in their level 1 starting gear with no weapon skills or defence. I figure that having the heirlooms will help them survive those first few OL quests to gear up

[Ualaa]

If you have the badges to spare, the BoA weaponry won't hurt.

They might not be the best weapon at every level, but they'll be close to the best.
And one thing less to worry about.

I'd probably save badges for other BoA +experience items, for future teams.
But if you have that already, or are fairly sure you won't be playing other teams...
Then the weapons are definitely decent.