Quote Originally Posted by Xzin
In my opinion, before BC and arenas, 5 cloths were the way to go. Post BC, Shammys have the staying power to consider giving up AoE in favor of Heroics (didn't exist pre BC) and Arenas (didn't exist pre BC).

You do have a point that the videos make a diffence. Just don't overlook the impact of broad and sweeping changes.

Also, no other class can DPS, heal, wear mail, instant cast 100% crit, 4x grounding totem, AoE (some), rez, ANKH, etc like Shammys. Which is why they are widely chosen to box with. They all have INSANE utility.

Shammys are nowhere near as good as 4 mages 1 priest in AV though.
As I was reading the posts I had the same thoughts. Shamans were a waste for boxing pre-BC. High end gear from boxing was non existant for soft-core (no arena rewards, or badge gear). And only for hard-core in BGs (warlord/high warlord gear) unless you had a guild that would rather take your 5 over other players (which has been the case for a few, but unless you are awsome-sauce at it, it won't happen). This meant that you would be apt to chose just regular PvP fun in the BGs, with a class makeup that could perform well enough with regular dungeon gear. As I mentioned in my other post in another thread, it really depends on what you want to do.

I have been as much as 10boxing in WoW since Jan 2006, about 3 months after I started playing WoW. It was either a mage or warlock crew. It was really the only two that made sense to make. I made the decision based on what BG I wanted to do, which was AV. So that narrowed it down to one choice, mage.

Now everything is different since the expansion. Hindsight is 20/20. Shamans had their balls drop; warlocks got Seed of Corruption; all the access to gear, etc etc. Based off of all of that, and yes, seeing videos on here, I'm starting up a 5shm crew to play with. But my love is still having fun in AVs, and therefore my "main" group will stay mages for now. I have plans to try out the first viable "Hero class" for multiboxing when it becomes available, and I don't think the Death Knight is going to be it.

I also agree that seeing is believing. Everything is theory at start, and once it is proved with a video on effectiveness of class combo XXXX, people will want to do that as well. Since they know it "can" work, vs trying out a combo that you find out is worthless for 8 months while you soft core grind them up 70 levels. :wink:

But also, I feel some other data in your analysis is missing (not that you said it was 100% complete and accurate or anything :wink: ):
There are a lot of things that has happened in the game in the last year, that have affected how stuff works, especially for multiboxing. There will also more than likely be some class down the road that puts current configs to shame for certain aspects of both PvP and PvE.

I made this post over 4 hours inbetween things, and now I have to rush to bed, so sorry if it is not concise. :shock:

-S