4x hunters + shaman

[Vyndree]

the mana regen is fine but it's easy enough to hop into viper a little more often

The mana regen was for my healer, not really the hunters.

I found that even with full tanking pets with the BM extra 5 pet talents, my pets were taking a whopping amount of damage. Granted, I was only 70 at the time and trying to go straight into the instance, but still... Druid oomed at the end of each pull (w/out innervate) and we still lost a pet or two. An innervate helped, but the next pull it'd be on CD.

I know the pure-dps style of instancing is pretty much to maximize DPS and plow through everything, but I'm liking the utility of the marks hunter keeping up scorpid/chimaera disarms and the carrion bird keeping up the aoe demo screech. The wolf's aoe howl is OK -- I wish there were more buffing/debuffing aoe pet abilities, and while I'm not quite as hot about Survival (particularly now that the aoe part of explosive shot is going away in the patch... right?) the mana regen for my healer (at least at my gear) is important.

I'll do some DPS tests, but in my mind I'd rather play at trying to do a tank(pet)/dps/healer style instance rather than full out max dps aoe pewpew.

[Catamer]

thanks for all of the info.
I now have a druid at 71 the same as my hunters. My gorillas have almost caught up in level so I'm going to give this all a try.
I'm going to respec the druid resto and try all of these ideas out.

[Boylston]

I'll do some DPS tests, but in my mind I'd rather play at trying to do a tank(pet)/dps/healer style instance rather than full out max dps aoe pewpew.

The beauty of having all BM spec hunters and tenacity pets is that you are really more Tank/DPS/Healer setup than a mixed spec/pet combo. There are a lot of times that I will still put a pet on each elite or use CC of some sort-- only when a given encounter is trivial do I just send all the gorillas in and let them AoE stuff down randomly. I like worms too, for what it's worth. They can each tank a target and the last 2-3 in a pull will have a full stack of armor debuffs on them when you kill them.

While I have tried to optimize DPS with the team, the key thing is having a full set of 4 tenacity pets and the BM/pet talents to support them. With harder bosses, I may lose a couple pets (improved pet rez FTW!) and need for all of them to be equally tank-a-licious. Gorillas just happen to make a great tenacity pet choice for this setup due to their nice AoE threat (and DPS).

[Boylston]

The mana regen was for my healer, not really the hunters.

I had a little bit of mana trouble with my druid right at L70, but that quickly passed. From L72-80, I never really had much issue with healer mana. What kind of spells are you using to heal the pets? Also, if you don't have all the defensive talents in Tenacity and BM, the pets drop much faster...

[Boylston]

The mana regen was for my healer, not really the hunters.

I had a little bit of mana trouble with my druid right at L70, but that quickly passed. From L72-80, I never really had much issue with healer mana. What kind of spells are you using to heal the pets? Also, if you don't have all the defensive talents in Tenacity and BM, the pets drop much faster...

[Multibocks]

I assume she is rolling lifeblooms on as many pets as she can (that are taking damage) and using big heals as necessary. At some point she is going to be spending more mana than she can regen back.

[Boylston]

If you Glyph for Rejuvenation and Regrowth, you can almost completely avoid lifebloom-ing.

On normal, level-appropriate instances, all I've needed to do in most situations is:

1.) Wild growth the pet group every 6 seconds when CD is up.

2.) Apply rejuvenation to any pet that is actively taking damage.

3.) Regrowth as needed to heal any pet that gets near 50%.



I tried rolling lifeblooms on everyone, but with 4 tenacity pets, it can get a little difficult (or that's all you'll be doing). The +heal %age bonuses of regrowth and rejuv when glyphed are awesome, so I built my healing strategy around them.

The only situation where I roll lifeblooms is on a boss, where I will pre-HoT up the Gorilla who I'd like to be tanking and use some Misdirect macros to make sure that pet has a good lead. I'll keep WG, Rejuv, Regrowth, and a stack of blooms going in that situation only.

Heroics are a little different.

[Catamer]

my chimps are still two levels below my hunters and need a little more time to grow up.

thanks for the healing tips.
I've been having the hunters misdirect to their own pets but I see that having them round robin misdirect to the same pet should help limit the number of pets needing healing.

[Vyndree]

I assume she is rolling lifeblooms on as many pets as she can (that are taking damage) and using big heals as necessary. At some point she is going to be spending more mana than she can regen back.

My druid isn't glyphed at all, and I have her spam lifeblooms and an occasional regrowth on [target=targettarget] and I use click casting to do more specific healing (swiftmends, rejuvs, etc).

WG is bound to mend pet (this is all pre-cd)