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  1. #21

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    It depends.

    If you level from 1-70 with a lot of questing and instance runs where you loot, it's not so expensive to raise Enchanting on all the team. Just don't sell quest rewards or drops and you can fund a lot (but not all) of the mats you need. 200-300 skill is a pain and will cost you a lot of gold.

    DEing quest rewards on all characters can be a great way to generate mats, either for yourself or for the AH. Enchanting using all the quest stuff helps mitigate the training cost dramatically. Same with old gear that gets replaced by newer dungeon drops.

    However, if you powerleveled up (using RAF or friends) and/or didn't loot/quest much along the low level way, you will pay a hefty price to get your skill up on multiple characters. The ring enchants were good in TBC and will continue to be decent. I was very happy with my Shamans all having enchanting because of the ability to generate a fair amount of mats and the ring enchants.

    You should definitely have enchanting on at least one of your team, if you do any kind of PvE dungeon runs. My new hunter team has the lead hunter with enchanting, and its been a piece of cake to skill him up and enchant the rest of the team's gear. Will I grab Enchanting on all the hunters? I don't know, it depends on if I stick with the team long-term.

    Short story-- It's expensive, and I'd only recommend it on a team you know you're going to stay with. It gets even more expensive the faster you powerlevel through the low levels.
    Cranky old-timer.

  2. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Niley',index.php?page=Thread&postID=162165#post16 2165
    Read here about changes to dream shards =)

    http://www.tardfactor.com/
    This will be interesting to see how much it drives up price. I don't think it will be much as peope run heroics like mad right now. Maybe later on these will be worth something, wish I could vendor the crap for like 5g each =(

  3. #23

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    <<insert random just-because-you-farmed-the-mats-yourself-doesn't-make-them-any-cheaper-than-if-you-bought-them comment here>>

  4. #24

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    It does if you weren't actively farming them and just happened to pick them up as you went around doing other things
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

  5. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=162367#pos t162367
    <<insert random just-because-you-farmed-the-mats-yourself-doesn't-make-them-any-cheaper-than-if-you-bought-them comment here>>
    Wat?


    I run heroics daily for badges, I'm swimming in shards and unable to sell them on AH. Seriously they are maybe 4g a shard, just pathetic. I really do hope the prices go up, but currently there are too many available right now.

  6. #26

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    no economics majors here I guess.

    potential income can be seen the same as income if the goods you sell are equal to the goods you buy.

    Farming your own mats is the exact same as buying them on the AH. if you can spend less time farming gold instead of the mats, and farm the mats you end up with a net loss. If you can farm the mats faster then the gold it takes to buy the mats, you end up with a surplus of mats which can be liquidated into gold, but again, you are only trading potential gold (the mats) into mats, and it is often easier to farm gold to buy mats.

    The problem is the market, I went to buy the mats for my enchanting on my druid and found 0, yes 0 vision dust on the AH and was forced to at least in part farm for some mats.

    so, when people say "go farm mats for your profession, its cheaper" they are not telling you the truth. The truth is, mats for professions are a commodity just as gold and leather, ores and herbs are commodities. Do whatever nets you the best benefit as calculated by a common currency (gold) and use the currency to buy your mats. If the fastest way to get gold is by farming your mats, great then you save yourself a step. farming for YOUR mats may NOT be the best way to get them, you may save yourself some gold on overinflated prices on the AH, definitely, but check your economy and find out if its easier to do dailies and farm something else, liquidating it for the mats you need when the market for YOUR commodity is in good shape.

    btw, I am not an economics major, this is just common sense =) (ie: anyone with better ideas are free to shut me down)

  7. #27

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    Again, as I stated in my post above, your statement is true if someone is actively farming a mat using time that COULD have been used to do something that would make as much or more money, like running dailies. However, if they are already doing something productive to accomplish something else and happen to get the mats they need/want while doing this other task, then no it doesn't cost them as much as buying from the AH, from a money or time stand point.
    <Multiplicity>
    Blood Elf Death Knight, 4 Orc Shaman - Burning Legion Horde US (PvP)
    Ellianaa - Haachoo - Hachu - Hachuu - Hahchoo

    Heroics down: Gundrak, Drak'Tharon, Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning, Ahn'Kahet, Violet Hold, Nexus, Azjol-Nerub, Halls of Stone

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