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  1. #11

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    Interesting games the manufacturer's play with series numbers, vs performance.

    The real test will be to see how they work once you get them going. Once you get all the machines running, and all characters available, you might find a friendly level 75+ mage to port your groups to Dalaran. If they'll move flawlessly there, they'll be good anywhere. I hardware multibox, and one of my computers really struggles there, even with only one character on it. Yean, its old and tired, but it works fine everywhere else

  2. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'welwyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160614#post1 60614
    in most cases i would actually work out whats wrong. this time its an error between user and keyboard.
    Quote Originally Posted by 'RobinGBrown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160670# post160670
    You like to throw money at a problem don't you, Mr transfer 25 lvl 22 toons from old account to new accounts?

    So just buy 5 brand new top of the line Alienware desktops plus all peripherals and put the old computers out for scrap.

    Then employ some IT support lackey to reconfigure your WoW setup and help out the economy.

    Lastly, remember that a fool and his money are soon parted.
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Youngceo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160682#pos t160682
    no1 cares.
    Congratulations on you three for winning asses-of-the-site awards. If anyone other than Sam posted this exact same thread you either wouldn't have posted here at all or you would have been somewhat helpful. The OP did not insult anyone, didn't brag at all, simply detailed a problem he was having and asked a bit for some advice. Apparently your mommy's never told you about manners.
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  3. #13

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    hahaha do i get a new status?
    no seriously this guy asks for advice, then says he will do it his way and just ignores everyone anyway. usually costing him 25 times what anyone else would pay if they stopped to think about it. imo it would be pointless saying what was wrong cause he would just do something stupid like buy 5 more pcs then waste another 3 months setting up the new pcs.

  4. #14

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    I just wish I had Sam's budget.

    It's his money, let him spend it how he will.
    Hardware Lurker

  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Hachoo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160728#post1 60728
    Quote Originally Posted by 'welwyn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160614#post1 60614
    in most cases i would actually work out whats wrong. this time its an error between user and keyboard.
    Quote Originally Posted by 'RobinGBrown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160670# post160670
    You like to throw money at a problem don't you, Mr transfer 25 lvl 22 toons from old account to new accounts?

    So just buy 5 brand new top of the line Alienware desktops plus all peripherals and put the old computers out for scrap.

    Then employ some IT support lackey to reconfigure your WoW setup and help out the economy.

    Lastly, remember that a fool and his money are soon parted.
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Youngceo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160682#pos t160682
    no1 cares.
    Congratulations on you three for winning asses-of-the-site awards. If anyone other than Sam posted this exact same thread you either wouldn't have posted here at all or you would have been somewhat helpful. The OP did not insult anyone, didn't brag at all, simply detailed a problem he was having and asked a bit for some advice. Apparently your mommy's never told you about manners.
    Hachoo,

    I think people have taken this attitude on Sam because most of them have tried to offer him advice in the past, just to have it ignored. Sure, some of the advice was better than others, but in general, even the good advice that people give Sam appears to fall on deaf ears. Most of us, yourself included, don't even comment on Sam's threads - or if we do, we offer either light humor, or a suggestion - knowing that it will be disregarded.

    I don't think that people are lashing out at Sam because of jealousy or envy, but rather, because of his well defined claims which have been just that - claims. There are very few people left on these boards that even believe Sam will make it to level 70, let alone 80. And, if history is any indicator (past performance), they would be correct. I personally think Sam can do it, but I wish that he would listen to some of the people on these forums. Most people that write a post asking for advice actually take it, yet it does not appear to be the case here. Some of the members of this community have become very disrespectful to Sam, but when you look at what he has claimed, can you really blame them (again, I would advise just to ignore his posts if they irritate you, rather than writing something unhelpful)?

    Now, just in my opinion here, but I would think that a "intelligent" person, new to boxing, would start with 5 characters (as has been suggested numerous times), learn the game, then move forward. Even with unlimited money, what's the point of having 100 accounts if you can't level them efficiently to help support your claims? From my perspective, leveling has been quicker the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, times around when building characters - I think Sam would experience the same thing too. I think most of us can attest to faster leveling methods once we get the "boxing" concept down.

    Sorry that this has gotten quite long winded, but I realize that the best advice that we can give people is to just ignore Sams threads (if they don't like them), but that's hard - we're all human, and we're all curious.

    Rin
    Rin
    Retired 10-Boxer (Wildhammer [A], Burning Legion [H]-USA)

  6. #16

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    Only "advice" I see is to buy Alienware ... odd advice from someone suggesting that a fool and his money are soon parted ...

    What does leveling up 5 at a time have to do with which AM2 Nvidia Chipset has the best memory bandwidth?

    I'm going to be taking Keyclone advice on the 5 instances at a time, if I can do it, so its not like I ignor everything.

    Maybe none care, but someone who is thinking of buying a AM2 motherboard might find this thread usefull, doubt anyone else will.

    new to boxing, would start with 5 characters
    "New to boxing" ya sure ....

    www.samdeathwalker.com

    I don't need to learn how to level 5 at a time, I need to learn how to level 26 at a time as thats what I will be doing. Telling a 25 boxer to level 5 at a time is like someone telling a 5 boxer to level 1 at a time.....

    Obviously I was six boxing and posting about it 1-23-2003:

    http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retar...rver-wide.html

    Anyway spending $490 ($90 shipping) for 4 590SLI Crosshair motherboards. Thats a steal.

    http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...83&modelmenu=1

  7. #17

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    Sam-- A buddy of mine built a new system around a 590SLI Crossfire motherboard recently and she reports it's working out fine.

    * * *

    As far as the "Sam Hate" issue is concerned, I am a bit guilty of this from time to time. My thoughts are:

    * Sam has chosen a multiboxing path that is very different from most of the community here. The vast majority of us don't understand why he's doing what he's doing, which has led to some harsh criticism.

    * Sam has generally responded by ignoring the unconstructive feedback, but he's also ignored a fair amount of constructive feedback/advice as well. More than once, this has led to his painful public admissions of "oops, you told me so".

    Personally, I view Sam as the multiboxing community's Don Quixote-- he's out there jousting with the 26-man multiboxing windmill at the moment. Does that mean that it's open season to abuse him on these forums, probably not. However, I think Sam should understand that he's probably always not going to get the rousing support from everyone given that he is embarking on a journey most do not identify with.

    I have faith in him that he will eventually get all his 26 (why, Sam, why 26?!) guys to L80. Unfortunately, I think this will be a Pyrrhic victory for Sam-- he will have 26 L80s and then figure out that he is extremely limited in what he has accomplished (or will accomplish)-- other than making a big "I did it!" post here on d-b.com
    Cranky old-timer.

  8. #18

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    keep in mind northrend is a lot more taxing on resources than older areas -- my PC gets 60+ fps in org/shatt with 5 WoWs running, and gets 4-8 fps in dalaran with gfx turned all the way down.

    and yeah, I'd suggest 5x intel quad core systems, they are the best bang for the buck for multiboxers right now. A asus or gigabyte motherboard is fine, whatever happens to be cheapest. You can build 5x 8gb, q9550 (or q6600) systems with 260+ video cards running Vista64 for around $1k each, and you will get 60 fps with 5 wows in most areas. Moving up to a Intel i7 is the fastest option, but it gives you a 30-40% improvement for a 70-100% price difference (wrt to motherboard and memory, the CPUs are priced the same).


    And by the time Sam hits 80 we will all be 90

  9. #19

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    I dont have wotlk yet (just BC) so Ill just deal with what Ill be doing for the next 3-6 months.

    I probably go with a tyan server motherboard before a i7 system, given the cost isnt all that much more.

    Things take time Im still still waiting on my accounts transfers to be done, since the rename.

  10. #20

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    I predict in a months time he will still be waiting on account transfers to be done - then he'll want to change their names again so he has another excuse for 3 months.

    All this time you've been waiting for account transfers couldn't you have got your guys back to what, level 20 or whatever they were? lol honestly.

    Stick to EQ

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