I'm the dev of "dualChoc".

[Itburnz]

dualChoc reads the chat buffer?

If you are reading chat buffers from the client. Then you are in violation of the ToS and this should NOT be dsicussed here. Thread locked.

From: "World of Warcraft/Data/enUS/tos.html"

2. Additional License Limitations. The license granted to you in Section 1 is subject to the limitations set forth in Sections 1 and 2 (collectively, the “License Limitations”). Any use of the Service or the Game Client in violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as an infringement of Blizzard’s copyrights in and to the Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

C. use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through the Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Game to store information about a character or the game environment; provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces;

-Svpernova09

[Anemo]

Sure.

[Jafula]

Watching the demo video, I noticed that this program presses keys for you. Typing the command "#key s" on the main causes the slave toon to walk backwards (presses the S key). I assume you can cast spells as well. There is no way to do this from the wow API, the movement and spell functions are protected.

The ability to whisper cast was removed from the wow api. Why would Blizzard allow the same functionality in a 3rd party application?

In my opinion this is BAD, because the action does not orginate from a HARDWARE EVENT like pressing a key on the keyboard would do. In my opinion, if you use this program, you are fast on your way to getting banned.

[Itburnz]

Oh i have spoken to the Blizzard EU representative (actually before developing this). The word was basically : "As long as you do not automate anything your application is fine."

The program transfers your chatmessage into keypresses. Thats what it does. It works the same as other dualboxing apps but uses the ingame chat system instead. So you are correct. I dont know what you mean with "Cast was removed from the WoW API". When you enter /cast Spellname this still works so submitting that keyboardinput should be fine. The hardware event here is that you still need to create that /tell.

[Jafula]

There is nothing to stop me putting all those tells into a macro. Now with one keypress, I can execute that macro. So I could get my character to walk forward, cast a a spell, turn around, cast another spell, all with one keypress. I'm sure Blizzard did not intend this sort of behaviour be allowed.

I'd love to get some clarification from Blizzard on this chat control mechanism.

[zanthor]

Oh i have spoken to the Blizzard EU representative (actually before developing this). The word was basically : "As long as you do not automate anything your application is fine."

The program transfers your chatmessage into keypresses. Thats what it does. It works the same as other dualboxing apps but uses the ingame chat system instead. So you are correct. I dont know what you mean with "Cast was removed from the WoW API". When you enter /cast Spellname this still works so submitting that keyboardinput should be fine. The hardware event here is that you still need to create that /tell.

The problems I have with it...

• The installer triggers as a virus, you say so in your FAQ, however if you check the release notes of the installer you say you are using, it appears that all the false positives were eliminated.
• The site states "Endorsed by Blizzard", and links to the general GM statements, the only product that has specifically been endorsed by Blizzard is KeyClone, and it is generally accepted that was some minor miracle. Blizzard has said as long as one hardware event = 1 event on each client things should be OK, but your statement is misleading.
• "Give control to friends when AFK" is clearly against TOS as account sharing is clearly against TOS.
• "No setup! Start it and you are ready" is flatout misleading. It appears that you just start it and go, which is possible, however you are going to have to setup a crapton of macro's just like any multi-boxer is going to, or something seriously shadey is happening behind the scenes.
• The first time we hear anything about it was the first time the user had ever posted anything...

If it's legit, then great, the more the merrier, but you will have to forgive the community for being skeptical when your website is filled with half truths and marketing speak.

[Itburnz]

There is nothing to stop me putting all those tells into a macro. Now with one keypress, I can execute that macro. So I could get my character to walk forward, cast a a spell, turn around, cast another spell, all with one keypress. I'm sure Blizzard did not intend this sort of behaviour be allowed.

I'd love to get some clarification from Blizzard on this chat control mechanism.

No, that does NOT work. There is no queueing in the software. I really suggest you try it for yourself before making false assumptions.

[Itburnz]

The problems I have with it...

• The installer triggers as a virus, you say so in your FAQ, however if you check the release notes of the installer you say you are using, it appears that all the false positives were eliminated.
• The site states "Endorsed by Blizzard", and links to the general GM statements, the only product that has specifically been endorsed by Blizzard is KeyClone, and it is generally accepted that was some minor miracle. Blizzard has said as long as one hardware event = 1 event on each client things should be OK, but your statement is misleading.
• "Give control to friends when AFK" is clearly against TOS as account sharing is clearly against TOS.
• "No setup! Start it and you are ready" is flatout misleading. It appears that you just start it and go, which is possible, however you are going to have to setup a crapton of macro's just like any multi-boxer is going to, or something seriously shadey is happening behind the scenes.
• The first time we hear anything about it was the first time the user had ever posted anything...

If it's legit, then great, the more the merrier, but you will have to forgive the community for being skeptical when your website is filled with half truths and marketing speak.

I'm using Winlicense from Oreans (so i dont have bother about coding license modells). Some virusscanners cannot unpack it and therefore trigger a generic detection. I agree some of the "features" a way too much "marketing" - will correct that based on your recommendations.

"No setup" is referred to the dualchoc setup. There really is just one button ... "on" to start dualboxing. Of course you are right, the macros still need setup but like in the video it's possible to manually enter them to have some basic dualboxing. My app is clearly aimed for new/rookie dualboxers. I'm sure most of you will stick to what they have already setup anyway.

I check this thread back and gonna update the webpage now. Thanks for your very valuable feedback - i didnt expect the page to look that bad for you
The one hardware event for 1 event per client is EXACTLY the same i got told by the community representative.

[Frosty]

I check this thread back and gonna update the webpage now. Thanks for your very valuable feedback - i didnt expect the page to look that bad for you
The one hardware event for 1 event per client is EXACTLY the same i got told by the community representative.

The biggest problem you are going to run into is that everyone here has invested a LOT of time with our accounts.
So without any proof of what you say you have been told, it's going to be hard to get people (here) to try it.
As it is, this post is the first I've ever heard of your software.

[Nachtkinder]

Never trust anything that sounds too good to be true.

There are right ways and wrong to introduce software into a community. When the first thing anyone hears about it is "zomg its not a virus" you can see how we might get a bad impression.