[Addon] Jamba - An assistant for multiboxers. Old Thread

[zanthor]

I read through the threads and I don't understand what the follow strobe is, and why it's different than any other method of follow.

There are three types of follow used in multiboxing that I'm aware of...

1 - /follow macro. You want the minions to follow, you press this once.
2 - /follow macro combined with /follow after combat mod. You press follow once to start, and follow after combat automatically refollows if you end combat.

These two are very common and nearly everyone I know uses them.

3 - /follow executed programatically from a UI mod on a timer. (Strobe). You tell your toons to start following, and every N seconds they issue the /follow command on their own thanks to a cleverly written UI mod. This is completely within the blizzard UI and not using any 3rd party application, and has functioned in this fashion since before wow went retail.

[AtroxCasus]

I read through the threads and I don't understand what the follow strobe is, and why it's different than any other method of follow.

There are three types of follow used in multiboxing that I'm aware of...

1 - /follow macro. You want the minions to follow, you press this once.
2 - /follow macro combined with /follow after combat mod. You press follow once to start, and follow after combat automatically refollows if you end combat.

These two are very common and nearly everyone I know uses them.

3 - /follow executed programatically from a UI mod on a timer. (Strobe). You tell your toons to start following, and every N seconds they issue the /follow command on their own thanks to a cleverly written UI mod. This is completely within the blizzard UI and not using any 3rd party application, and has functioned in this fashion since before wow went retail.

Got it...it "strobes" the follow command to them. Thanks- it seems pretty obvious now. I can't believe how much information there is to be gathered here. Everytime I think "Hmmm I have a pretty decent setup", I login here and find something else I wanna try out. Y'all rock, thanks for the help.

EDIT*** Is the strobe feature not in 0.2a or is it there, but I have to set it up by typing, because I don't see it in the GUI****

[Jafula]

EDIT*** Is the strobe feature not in 0.2a or is it there, but I have to set it up by typing, because I don't see it in the GUI****

It is in 0.2b which I will be releasing tomorrow (about 16 hours from the time of this post). I also had to fix some problems with accented characters.

[AtroxCasus]

Thanks Jafula. I love this addon.

[Jafula]

The focus thing you requested isn't quite there yet... sorry! And yes the leave battlefield would be something you macro'd up on one toon only and that toon would tell the others. Ofc, you can macro it up as well yourself as you suggested.

No problem, I probably misread then
[edit] But if the battleground thing is something I'd have to macro in, then I don't think it's necessary to make a jamba command out of it, as a regular script command is just as easy to do.

Actually, I was the one that misread your first post. If there is an event that fires when you leave battlegrounds, assuming the leave battleground command is not protected, I could automatically tell the slaves to leave when the master leaves. This would save a macro spot. I'll add it back to the todo list.

[Jafula]

... I do use one of those bug trackers and have been long before I ever released it to you lot!...

awesome but can you share the url so ppl can file requests directly for you (you're obviously still control the priority and/or even "accepting" the bug or targetting it for a given release) - some system allow ppl to "vote" for feature requests too

If you're interested in just looking at the bug list, that might be doable. One of the problems with using an "open" bug tracking system where anyone can write bugs is that you'll have 5 people writing the same bug with different names, or adding updates to the wrong bugs, or filing bugs that have zero relevant information. In most cases, without regulation and oversight of said bugdb's, it's much easier and less time-consuming for developers to NOT allow public access to them. Hell, I have enough trouble getting my QA guys at work to submit good reports, and I'm the one that pays their checks.

The bug tracker is very private; and it also has a lot of coding "todos" in it which will just confuse anyone else looking at it. I do agree with Ughmahedhurtz in this case, sorry Moorea. I know this thread is getting large, but I do keep track of everything in it. And you (and everyone else) have been absolutely wonderful at posting bugs and ideas. It's great. Keep it up.

Maybe when this thread gets to mega size, the nice people that run dual-boxing, might a) sticky it or b) give us our own forum to play in... or c) do nothing.

[Jafula]

Sorry if someone asked this question already, but when I loaded up the new Jamba (most recent version) my toons names being [/font][/size]Äralita, Ärzwei, Ärsechs, Ärzwölf, Ärelf, the new Jamba seems to make the A some really odd looking symbol.. So in other words, it's not letting the toons all see each other. So there for Jamba does not work.

I know what the problem is there. I use some lua functions to capitalise the first letter of each name. My guess is that lua function does not like european characters. I'll get a fix out for that soon for you.[/quote]Awesome, thanks, I went back to the first version for the time being.[/quote]I have fixed this in 0.2b. You can download it now (see the first post). Please let me know if it works for you.

[Razman]

I have been using Jamba and love it. I also use Questhelped but only on my main-I keep the addons on all the alts to a minimum - no problems so far. After hitting 70 I tried out some PvP BG wise something I do occasionally. The question is this- Is there anything in jamba or the upcoming Jamba which will let you swap the leader or if youre using targettarget the target of the rest of your guys when fighting. Ive seen the failover macros but hate the fact you dont get to know who youre new master is. Was reading the focus changes, will this have an effect on a PvP failover when your brain dies?

[Jafula]

Hi,
just stopping by to thank you for this incredible addon. I just started using it a few days ago and it is great.
Thank you and keep up the good work,
Bunny

Thank you for stopping by and taking the time to write something. It's nice to know people are using Jamba.

I will add an assist master function in 0.3 for you; but to use it you will have to bind a key to the "Jamba Assist Master" function. And to assist, you will have to press the key. So perhaps you are better off using your current macro set; that way you can incorporate your /assist along with a command like attack or cast.

Doesn't sound like there's really any reason to go ahead and add that in, unless others actually want it. Sounds like I would be better off just using the assist macro I'm already using (easy enough).

I did have one other idea, and I'm sure even if it could be implemented it would probably take a back seat to other more pressing things to add, but I thought I would throw it out there. Since you can send the settings to other chars for the addon, do you know if its possible to push game settings to other toons as well? Say... Keybindings for instance. I go in and set all my keybinds for one, then instead of going to each one, I could just hit "Push to Other Characters" and they then have the same keybinds. I realize there are a couple of batch files somewhere on these forums that others have written for this exact function, but I have yet to get one to function properly for me. Just an idea.

Sure, I'll leave the /assist out as I want to think some more about how to implement assisting, focus, targetting, etc. I've wanted to add a keybinding scheme to Jamba, as I have some functions I want bound to three keys. As a seperate idea, yes, it would be possible to push keybinds, but I can imagine it would take some time to go accross the network. Anyway these ideas are not likely to get implemented soon, but know that they are something I would like to do.

Just put Jamba into play last night, I have some issues that likely are covered 7 times in this thread, so don't worry about them too much, I haven't read the whole thread cover to cover as an active user yet. One example that was a little odd was when I was trying to have quest sharing and completing, it seemed that the slaves would accept the last quest I had completed when I accepted a new quest. It was like the slaves were one step behind. I'm sure I twiddled something wrong though, I'll tinker with it.

The defaults should just work without causing harm! Make sure you don't have another addon (like twobox or multiboxer) trying to do some quest automation for you as well.

One thing I think we could and should do as a community is start making an "owner's manual/FAQ" for Jamba, using this thread as the blackboard and having it end up on the wiki, which also would lend itself well to turning into a downloadable pdf that could be bundled with Jamba or downloaded separately. I realize a lot of that data is in this thread, we could do a lot of excerpting or revisions to get that helpfile vibe.

Documentation always suffers doesn't it? I'm going to work on it real soon (hehe). I also thought a PDF might be a nice idea. Stay tuned.

Main reason for the post is an idea I got from someone's comment in my Frankenstein thread based on main assists. I'm assuming that poster is using the name of his toon when he does mainassisttarget and such. But then I was thinking why not have a variable like Main Assist? Hmm, Jamba supports naming a member of the team as Master, why not have a capability to do something like /jamba setmeasmasterassist all, so that the other toons can /assist masterassist?

Really clever macro writers can likely build macros that can do this sort of thing, have a main assist macro and then use a separate macro to edit in the name of a targeted character, but I'm thinking Jamba may be able to do it much more cleanly and intuitively.

In similar fashion you could create variable for MainHealTarget or MainTank as well, though that also opens the door down the road to tying in to things like Bigwigs MT window, because adding those sorts of functions would likely add to MB capability to be more flexible and effective within a raid setting.

As lacitpo says, this is on the roadmap, but with the tags Jamba uses, the idea being that the tags can be replaced in the macros with the actual toon that has that tag. So you could tag a toon as a "mainassist" and then write a macro that included "%mainassist%-target". When you loaded your team; Jamba would replaces the %mainassist% with the first toon it finds with that tag.

Anyway, any ideas you have are always welcome.

[Jafula]

I have been using Jamba and love it. I also use Questhelped but only on my main-I keep the addons on all the alts to a minimum - no problems so far. After hitting 70 I tried out some PvP BG wise something I do occasionally. The question is this- Is there anything in jamba or the upcoming Jamba which will let you swap the leader or if youre using targettarget the target of the rest of your guys when fighting. Ive seen the failover macros but hate the fact you dont get to know who youre new master is. Was reading the focus changes, will this have an effect on a PvP failover when your brain dies?

With 0.2b, if you use focus (/cast [target=focustarget] or /assist focus) you can set Jamba up to swap to a new master easily in combat.

I have moved to the focus as leader system with "/cast [target=focustarget,harm] yada" macros. What I like about this system, is focus is very constant. Accidently changing focus is very hard to do. When casting these spells, my toons don't actually have a target, so this leaves target free for "other" uses. Although I don't actually use target for these "other" uses (yet). And I'm wondering why I didn't change sooner. As for shaman melee, /assist focus takes care of that. And if I need to solo on a toon, I just set its focus to itself.

I have 5 keybinds setup for switching leader. The keybinds and associated macros are exactly the same on each toon, so they all execute the same macro.

   Key Macro
F8 /focus Yaswar
F9 /focus Yasprie
F10 /focus Yasmage
F11 /focus Yasham
F12 /focus Yashan

Now these keys are also setup using hotkeynet to swap wow windows around, so that when I press a key associated with a toon, I get that toons window as my main window.

Where Jamba comes in, is that it can automatically update the leader based on who has the current focus (as of 0.2b). The option is in the Team tab of /jamba and it is named "On Focus Change Set Focus To Master".

So my warning messages, etc, all come to the main window as well; my toons all attack the correct target, follow the new master for quests, taxi etc. It works in combat, its pretty much instant. It's great!

You should be able to do the same with party1 instead of focus (but if you PVP, party1 isn't such a good idea).

So as for targettarget, nothing I'm afraid as target changes a lot (different masters) and Jamba cannot change macros in combat. Focus and party1 do work as they are constant.

Does any of this make sense? :P