[Addon] Jamba - An assistant for multiboxers. Old Thread

[Jafula]

On the team names greyed out, I'd put your legend as "the team jamba is actively controlling is highlighted, the greyed out teams are configured but inactive" or something similar. It's entirely possible that the number of questions in the thread that deal with getting the first team all clicked, selected, tagged and such dwarfs all the other questions combined.

Yes, I hate it (the system in place currently) for enabling characters; it goes against my rules (KISS); but I couldn't finding a "GUI" component that did that out of the box and my enthusiasm for the project was waning, so I pulled some features, built a website, made some real quick docs and posted here to see what sort of reaction I'd get. So far so good 8) .

I love that you are giving me decent suggestions for the little things; like fixing up the text on the auto-buy. I'm so into Jamba, I know what it does, so all the wording seems right, but you pointing out stuff is cool. Can't say when I'll get to it, but its important and I will do it.

[Grimgear]

So far the addon is working out great for me, thanks for putting the effort into making it

The one and only issue I have is with changing master characters. I do this often. When I do this, whoever the new master is still wants to autofollow who he was following before I made him master after combat. Not a critical issue, just mildly irritating

[Jafula]

Just a quick update on Jamba-Target. It's coming along quite nicely.

I built Jamba-Target in particular for instances. I'm going to do Ramps soon and I wanted it to go as smooth as possible. I've always wanted a targeting system, so I built my own.

In the screenshot you can see a keybinding inset along with a target selection. Basically, pre-combat you mark targets for identification using Jamba's mark target selection (see inset). When you do this, Jamba creates "/targetexact mobname" macros on all your toons and creates a target list with mob name and health (see in screenshot).

Mark a mob with the star, press keybind 1 and all your toons target that mob. Can mark up to 8 targets in this manner. If there are one or more mobs with the same name, Jamba keeps track of their health correctly, but your toons will generally target the closest one.

This is as close as "target by raid icon" that I think I can get.

The target list only becomes visible when you mark a mob and it disappears when combat is over (unless there is still a targeted mob alive you did not engage).

Do you understand this sytem? Would you use it? I know I will be! Its nice to just to have a mob health list, let alone the targeting feature...

[thinus]

Hi,

This will only work out of combat, right?

What about bosses that spawn adds while you are fighting? For instance the Felhound spawning boss in Ramps, Laj and the Druid boss in Botanica, etc.

EDIT: It also seems to imply that all abilities on the clones are using their current target and not assisting off the main. With my 5x shaman group I use the main as focus targeting approach which works really well for directed burst and no CC. With Hex in Wrath I will probably need to look at using their current targets as CC targets. So for the shaman team I don't really see this as much of a benefit except maybe for the main to easily switch targets in a priority order. Target 1 and DPS it down, Target 2 and dps it down, etc.

With my mixed team it might be a little more helpful although with the mixed team I just have an assist button I hit to get focus fire on the same mob and I assign focus targets for CC beforehand. So not sure how helpful it would be. One of my biggest problems in PvE is dealing with adds that are spawned during combat. Especially the kind where it is difficult for the tank to pickup the adds due to positioning or healing aggro or the adds being untauntable. When 3 of your group wears cloth and the 4th wears leather you don't have a lot of survivability and the adds need to be dealt with quickly. My main strategy at the moment is to make a special assist macro that assists the main and then does a targetnextenemy to get all my dps to focus fire the adds. Doesn't always work all that well especially if an add manages to get behind you.

This is where some help in targeting would be most beneficial I think.

[Jafula]

[quote='thinus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=130527 #post130527]This will only work out of combat, right?

What about bosses that spawn adds while you are fighting? For instance the Felhound spawning boss in Ramps, Laj and the Druid boss in Botanica, etc.
[/quote]Yes, only out of combat. You would need to mark before pulling. Adds that spawn in combat are out. Perhaps I could add a system, so that, if you knew the name of the mob before the fight, you could manually set up one of the targets without marking (like a dialog to type the mob name into). This way you could target them, when they spawned.
[quote='thinus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=130527 #post130527]EDIT: It also seems to imply that all abilities on the clones are using their current target and not assisting off the main. With my 5x shaman group I use the main as focus targeting approach which works really well for directed burst and no CC. With Hex in Wrath I will probably need to look at using their current targets as CC targets. So for the shaman team I don't really see this as much of a benefit except maybe for the main to easily switch targets in a priority order. Target 1 and DPS it down, Target 2 and dps it down, etc.
[/quote]Yes, they target directly. Yout offensive spells macros would have to handle individual target (target) and target from main (focustarget). I think the key for me here is priority order; [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=117994#post117994']see this post for what I mean[/url] .

With my mixed team it might be a little more helpful although with the mixed team I just have an assist button I hit to get focus fire on the same mob and I assign focus targets for CC beforehand. So not sure how helpful it would be. One of my biggest problems in PvE is dealing with adds that are spawned during combat. Especially the kind where it is difficult for the tank to pickup the adds due to positioning or healing aggro or the adds being untauntable. When 3 of your group wears cloth and the 4th wears leather you don't have a lot of survivability and the adds need to be dealt with quickly. My main strategy at the moment is to make a special assist macro that assists the main and then does a targetnextenemy to get all my dps to focus fire the adds. Doesn't always work all that well especially if an add manages to get behind you.

This is where some help in targeting would be most beneficial I think.

I've had experiences where I've pulled 6 (all social) and I have had to spam heal my tank in order for it to survive. Doing this causes aggro on the healer as the tank hasn't had a chance to gain aggro on all the mobs. Here is where a priority order really shines for me. I can easily target the "dangerous" mobs first; while my tank is saving my healer. Without having to target the next mob in the list with my tank in order for my dps to be useful.

On the other hand, your only issue seems to be in-combat spawns, so manually typing a name pre combat could be useful for you.

[Jafula]

So far the addon is working out great for me, thanks for putting the effort into making it

The one and only issue I have is with changing master characters. I do this often. When I do this, whoever the new master is still wants to autofollow who he was following before I made him master after combat. Not a critical issue, just mildly irritating

Thanks for reporting that. I don't auto follow after combat and I don't change masters often, so I would have never noticed. I'd rather my software wasn't mildly irritating! I'll fix it for 0.3.

[Talos]

So far the addon is working out great for me, thanks for putting the effort into making it

The one and only issue I have is with changing master characters. I do this often. When I do this, whoever the new master is still wants to autofollow who he was following before I made him master after combat. Not a critical issue, just mildly irritating

Thanks for reporting that. I don't auto follow after combat and I don't change masters often, so I would have never noticed. I'd rather my software wasn't mildly irritating! I'll fix it for 0.3.

I get this same problem, easily replicated too
i use the /focus system for main char
when switching char i press my /focus button for the correct char, and everyone nicely follows him when i do a /follow focus
Jamba even see's the focus change and makes him the master

but still, autofollow after combat, makes EVERY char follow the first master, even the char im controlling gets turned around and put on /follow after combat
quite annoying indeed
hope can fix it !

and still, amazing addon
the change master on focus addition works great !
and im looking forward to your gui and targeting system

[Dragonshadow]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but when you talk to the questgiver on your main, do the slaves also talk to the quest-giver?
ZQB + 5box + talking to questgiver on all 5 = pain.

I mean I would settle for a command (that I could put in a macro/bind to a key) that would make my slaves talk/loot the target when pressed.

I'm rambling, sorry.

[sedory]

I ran into the auto-follow-post-combat bug for a bit as well. I'm only 2 boxing but it seems like the mod was getting confused on who the master was.. I was getting the master trying to occasionally auto-follw the slave post combat, and the slave was getting warnings/errors. When I logged out and back in later and reset up the group, it seemed to behave better...

Also, there was an option about setting the focus on master change, but it never automatically set the focus (I just run as focus = leader) or even automatically followed no matter the commands I used.. Am I understanding this wrong? I'm sorry, I just haven't found decent examples and the thread is extremely large at the moment. I'll prolly read through all of it later at work today.

[Greythan]

Hate to the paranoid one to ask, but does Jamba-Target start to get close enough to "automation" to draw Blizzard's attention? I realize you are only using "allowed" ui capabilities, but pre-targeting (if I'm understanding it correctly) feels like its getting close (if not past?) the "line". Stated another way, in a standard group it seems expected that each player would have to use specific key/mouse clicks to acquire the next target in a multi-target pull and not rely on a ui mod to do it for them.

Please understand I love what you are attempting to do here and would use it. I just wanted to raise the philosophical question for the community.

Thanks!