[Addon] Jamba - An assistant for multiboxers. Old Thread

[Jheusse]

Just put Jamba into play last night, I have some issues that likely are covered 7 times in this thread, so don't worry about them too much, I haven't read the whole thread cover to cover as an active user yet. One example that was a little odd was when I was trying to have quest sharing and completing, it seemed that the slaves would accept the last quest I had completed when I accepted a new quest. It was like the slaves were one step behind. I'm sure I twiddled something wrong though, I'll tinker with it.

One thing I think we could and should do as a community is start making an "owner's manual/FAQ" for Jamba, using this thread as the blackboard and having it end up on the wiki, which also would lend itself well to turning into a downloadable pdf that could be bundled with Jamba or downloaded separately. I realize a lot of that data is in this thread, we could do a lot of excerpting or revisions to get that helpfile vibe.

Main reason for the post is an idea I got from someone's comment in my Frankenstein thread based on main assists. I'm assuming that poster is using the name of his toon when he does mainassisttarget and such. But then I was thinking why not have a variable like Main Assist? Hmm, Jamba supports naming a member of the team as Master, why not have a capability to do something like /jamba setmeasmasterassist all, so that the other toons can /assist masterassist?

Really clever macro writers can likely build macros that can do this sort of thing, have a main assist macro and then use a separate macro to edit in the name of a targeted character, but I'm thinking Jamba may be able to do it much more cleanly and intuitively.

In similar fashion you could create variable for MainHealTarget or MainTank as well, though that also opens the door down the road to tying in to things like Bigwigs MT window, because adding those sorts of functions would likely add to MB capability to be more flexible and effective within a raid setting.

[lacitpo]

I think that the roadmap for jamba has plans for a system like that. It's going to use placeholders in your jamba macros that are replaced based on what toon you have in which role. Till then it's manual macro rewrite city.

[AtroxCasus]

Jafula-
I have read through the threads here and can't find any mention of a conlfict with the addon Quest Helper. I loaded Jamba today (kickass thank you- I'm impressed by the clean and easy to use GUI) and none of the 3 toons show it anymore. It is turned on in toomanyaddons, and the options all act like it's working. For example, the QH tracker is not being displayed, but if I toggle it off and on again, it tells me that it is off, and on. Same for world map ant trails etc...

I logged in the toons, set up some new macros then closed out wow, installed Jamba, started keyclone and they launched via keyclone as usual. For whatever reason, something is snuffing Quest Helper. Any ideas?

[Fef]

For me, Jamba and QuestHelper work very well together. I didn't have any conflict.

[zanthor]

@zanthor,Ken,Talos

I have PM'd you with a link to the 0.2b2 test version. It contains the new "on focus change, set master to focus" option that Ken requested and an addition to the follow strobe system for zanthor.

I'm using the focus as master system now (over the [target=targettarget], master as target system) and I love it so much. Ken's idea, makes it so easy to swap master; just a macro with /focus toon on each character. Brilliant. Thanks for suggesting it Ken.

Had a chance to play with this last night... I've totally removed my own code from my system now for follows...

The follow strobe worked great, I didn't have any deaths that would normally end in huge amounts of follow broken spam, so I'll have to keep an eye on that when I die... I did check the few situations that caused great amounts of problems when I threw it together quick and dirty and they were all covered...


/jamba-follow strobeon <target> <tag>
I use this for my parade formation, Samarri follows Sarnarn follows Samarn follows Sarnam follows Samam... here's one for a 10+ boxer to try, did you know if you ran a big enough circle in a line like this that if you /follow on the last person with the first person the entire circle keeps moving for a little bit, a 5 boxer moves for about 5 seconds more until the circle collapses and stops orbiting.... I'd wager a 30+ boxer could go for at least 15 seconds after hitting that last follow command!

/jamba-follow strobeonme <tag>
I've placed this in my PIP hotkey to make a toon the master.

/jamba-follow strobeoff <tag>
This is used in my stop following macro so I can eat/drink successfully.

/jamba-follow strobeonlast <tag>
And this of course is used after I eat or drink to start following again.

My macro's for all characters were 5 lines long before...
/focus Leader
/promote Leader
/script myFollowStrobeStart
/script SetView(5);SetView(5)
/wr main Leader

Now the macro for all the alts becoming leader is exactly two lines long... And the 2nd is just preference to keep views lined up.
/focus Leader
/script SetView(5);SetView(5)

The make me the leader is of course a little longer... but works nicely since it's only 2 lines more.
/focus Leader
/script SetView(5);SetView(5)
/jamba setmeasmaster all
/jamba-follow strobeonme all

I'd love it if focus could be included, but Blizzard protects their target functions in combat so I'd say this is about as good as it gets for me!

[Zub]

i read all this and i get scared.
Make sure you keep things easy guys, that's the beauty of jamba. If you need to write 2-3 lines of macro to get some things to work it will soon lose its appeal

[AtroxCasus]

For me, Jamba and QuestHelper work very well together. I didn't have any conflict.

I honestly don't know what the problem is. Jamba is the only new variable in the mix. Once I have the toons logged in, QuestHelper seems to think it is working, but none of the features are visible. I didn't spend a whole lot of time troubleshooting it. I'm at level 18 with less than 12 hours played, and probably 2 of it is trial and error macro writing, addon tweaking, and testing setup before questing, so I am extremely happy with it so far. I gotta say, the taxi feature is amazing, and being able to complete quests by opening each clone's log, selecting the reward, then going to the main and selecting it and completing while the 2 clones complete and grab the next quest is the most amazing time saver ever. I have Lightheaded, but QH just makes it so much easier to decide where to go based on a quick and easy visual on the world map that I'd like to use it.

[zanthor]

i read all this and i get scared.
Make sure you keep things easy guys, that's the beauty of jamba. If you need to write 2-3 lines of macro to get some things to work it will soon lose its appeal

If you are referring to my setup, I'd say you are probably right. However my setup is also incredibly resilient and battle tested. Jamba GREATLY simplified my setup including removing several hundred lines of script that I was using to accomplish many of the things Jamba does much better. The sign of a GREAT tool in my opinion is to be easy to use and setup at first glance, and with a little more work be amazingly powerful and flexible...

[AtroxCasus]

I read through the threads and I don't understand what the follow strobe is, and why it's different than any other method of follow.

[Jheusse]

Hmm I keep pondering ways to open up NPCs on slaves without clicking in windows.

I think I have a fairly esoteric way to actually do it if one thing is possible. I've never tried this, so I could be full of beans.

Can you open up an NPC by targeting them and then right clicking on their portrait? Similar to one method of opening a trade window with a PC, but with an NPC?

If you can do that I think you can do one of a number of ways to open up the window on the slave window, whether you trigger a macro that will assist the main to target the NPC and than emulate a right click at that location on the screen. The portrait of your target does not move around like the location of the NPC in the slave windows does. Another potential way to do it is some variant of mouse broadcasting for just that click, hover your cursor on the main screen and hit a macro or hold down another key to turn on mouse broadcasting, right click on main window, etc.

There's got to be a way to do it, between the mouseover functionality that can be used for addons like Grid or maybe if you try /trade with the NPC. I thought there would be an /interact slash command but there isn't, and /use is the command for gear items in the screen, anyone tried to /use NPC with a macro?